1 00:00:21,370 --> 00:00:07,080 [Music] 2 00:00:26,929 --> 00:00:23,840 you're in the para cast the gold 3 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:26,939 standard of paranormal radio and now 4 00:00:35,740 --> 00:00:33,730 we're back with a power cast I'm Jean 5 00:00:38,350 --> 00:00:35,750 Steinberg the co-host is Chris O'Brien 6 00:00:40,690 --> 00:00:38,360 the extra late night edition 7 00:00:43,690 --> 00:00:40,700 you know we record the show in advance 8 00:00:46,390 --> 00:00:43,700 and normally we do it during the day 9 00:00:50,170 --> 00:00:46,400 like 11 12 o'clock Arizona time but 10 00:00:51,430 --> 00:00:50,180 right now it's 11:48 p.m. which is way 11 00:00:54,370 --> 00:00:51,440 past my bedtime 12 00:00:56,470 --> 00:00:54,380 ouch you know I don't use the coffin 13 00:00:58,720 --> 00:00:56,480 anymore you know I wondered about the 14 00:01:02,200 --> 00:00:58,730 vampire lore because the old days of 15 00:01:03,730 --> 00:01:02,210 Bela Lugosi the vampire would sit in the 16 00:01:06,010 --> 00:01:03,740 coffin during the day and get up at 17 00:01:08,050 --> 00:01:06,020 night the same thing for True Blood but 18 00:01:09,550 --> 00:01:08,060 if you watch this TV series being human 19 00:01:12,100 --> 00:01:09,560 if you seen that yet 20 00:01:16,020 --> 00:01:12,110 mmm I don't have TV Dean I consider 21 00:01:18,730 --> 00:01:16,030 yourself lucky you only have a radio I 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:18,740 occasionally will Hulu something I 23 00:01:25,150 --> 00:01:22,450 Netflix movies I will not abide 24 00:01:27,100 --> 00:01:25,160 mainstream television I am I just 25 00:01:29,410 --> 00:01:27,110 I've swore off it almost three years ago 26 00:01:31,540 --> 00:01:29,420 now well I'll tell you something you're 27 00:01:33,730 --> 00:01:31,550 probably better off and I certainly have 28 00:01:36,639 --> 00:01:33,740 a lot more money right and I'm not 29 00:01:39,219 --> 00:01:36,649 eating seaweed and drinking red wine and 30 00:01:39,639 --> 00:01:39,229 lathering myself with iodine right now 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:39,649 either 32 00:01:45,100 --> 00:01:42,530 oh here's the point there's a show 33 00:01:48,730 --> 00:01:45,110 called being human and what's about is a 34 00:01:51,460 --> 00:01:48,740 ghost a vampire and a werewolf become 35 00:01:54,370 --> 00:01:51,470 anyway into a bar no well there's a joke 36 00:01:55,809 --> 00:01:54,380 about that I'm sure actually they get an 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:55,819 apartment together there's a British 38 00:02:00,669 --> 00:01:57,170 version and then there's an American 39 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:00,679 version it's you're kidding me knowing 40 00:02:07,870 --> 00:02:04,729 so it's like a paranormal reality show 41 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:07,880 no it's a drama okay with some comedic 42 00:02:12,820 --> 00:02:11,090 overtones now the American remake of the 43 00:02:16,809 --> 00:02:12,830 British show which is still on the air 44 00:02:19,839 --> 00:02:16,819 stars Sam Huntington who's the actor who 45 00:02:22,330 --> 00:02:19,849 played in another TV series about the 46 00:02:24,940 --> 00:02:22,340 cavemen that was based on the Geico 47 00:02:26,890 --> 00:02:24,950 cameras guy code the Geico caveman Yeah 48 00:02:29,770 --> 00:02:26,900 right that lasted like you know one and 49 00:02:31,750 --> 00:02:29,780 a half episodes and he also played Jimmy 50 00:02:33,790 --> 00:02:31,760 Olsen in the last Superman movie 51 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:33,800 Superman Returns but he plays the 52 00:02:38,830 --> 00:02:36,050 werewolf in this in any case what I was 53 00:02:42,550 --> 00:02:38,840 saying is here in this particular legend 54 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:42,560 of werewolves and vampires the 55 00:02:48,339 --> 00:02:45,770 werewolf only becomes a wolf one time a 56 00:02:52,210 --> 00:02:48,349 month it's not every day of the full 57 00:02:54,580 --> 00:02:52,220 moon but one time and the vampire can't 58 00:02:57,490 --> 00:02:54,590 exist during the daytime okay 59 00:03:00,070 --> 00:02:57,500 well yeah no coffins yeah for for plot 60 00:03:03,699 --> 00:03:00,080 elements well you know in the original 61 00:03:05,740 --> 00:03:03,709 Dracula Dracula could actually yeah 62 00:03:08,530 --> 00:03:05,750 there was none out during the day yeah 63 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:08,540 yeah yeah Nosferatu you could see him 64 00:03:12,430 --> 00:03:09,170 anytime 65 00:03:14,710 --> 00:03:12,440 that's right that that he looked like 66 00:03:16,860 --> 00:03:14,720 much in any way I don't know how this 67 00:03:19,870 --> 00:03:16,870 started but I was going to talk about 68 00:03:21,729 --> 00:03:19,880 the crazy rumors that have arisen about 69 00:03:23,949 --> 00:03:21,739 the power cast I don't know if it's our 70 00:03:27,130 --> 00:03:23,959 fame and fortune maybe our fame because 71 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:27,140 there is no fortune but one rumor has it 72 00:03:34,930 --> 00:03:31,010 that there's a cabal of millionaires in 73 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:34,940 our forums who finances me Wow well how 74 00:03:38,710 --> 00:03:36,650 come I'm not on the payroll what's up 75 00:03:40,690 --> 00:03:38,720 with that unfortunately there are a 76 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:40,700 little over five years late with the 77 00:03:50,620 --> 00:03:44,000 payments okay so we've been on over five 78 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:50,630 years no payments oh man I hope that's 79 00:03:56,110 --> 00:03:53,810 not a trend oh well you know we have to 80 00:03:58,840 --> 00:03:56,120 spread a donation button for the co-host 81 00:04:00,789 --> 00:03:58,850 let's do that here's a cause donation 82 00:04:05,140 --> 00:04:00,799 button I like that idea 83 00:04:06,580 --> 00:04:05,150 you build it I'll post it the I thing is 84 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:06,590 here's you'll get probably a hundred 85 00:04:12,309 --> 00:04:09,250 times more cash than I do 86 00:04:14,590 --> 00:04:12,319 there's one way to find out gene okay 87 00:04:16,449 --> 00:04:14,600 well it's up to you my friend go ahead 88 00:04:18,789 --> 00:04:16,459 and we'll have the co-host donation 89 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:18,799 button when my son I first started doing 90 00:04:23,230 --> 00:04:20,570 the tech night out live 91 00:04:27,070 --> 00:04:23,240 he was my co-host we called the garage 92 00:04:29,950 --> 00:04:27,080 radio because we were just sitting in my 93 00:04:33,159 --> 00:04:29,960 bedroom not a garage because too much 94 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:33,169 echoing so it was bedroom you know like 95 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:35,450 the second bedroom was my office and 96 00:04:41,260 --> 00:04:38,330 we'd sit there and we'd do the show no 97 00:04:43,390 --> 00:04:41,270 garage radio so this is I guess we could 98 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:43,400 call garage radio except it's very 99 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:45,650 common now you know a lot of the talk 100 00:04:51,550 --> 00:04:48,650 shows are not done anymore from studios 101 00:04:54,150 --> 00:04:51,560 they're done from the home of the talent 102 00:04:56,370 --> 00:04:54,160 our bill was famous for doing 103 00:05:00,900 --> 00:04:56,380 to show it you know in the poem trailer 104 00:05:03,350 --> 00:05:00,910 sure exactly he started a trend so 105 00:05:06,900 --> 00:05:03,360 instead of renting an elaborate studio I 106 00:05:08,730 --> 00:05:06,910 equipped my home office with microphones 107 00:05:10,530 --> 00:05:08,740 and other gear and now I'm not even 108 00:05:14,310 --> 00:05:10,540 using the mixer I'm using this Yeti 109 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:14,320 microphone because the name is Yeti you 110 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:16,210 know it has the paranormal aspect to it 111 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:19,690 yeah like that so anyway back to the 112 00:05:25,980 --> 00:05:21,970 rumors you know they're wacky people out 113 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:25,990 there who say the craziest things and I 114 00:05:30,510 --> 00:05:28,050 don't want to say anything about 115 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:30,520 particular people some people I think of 116 00:05:34,110 --> 00:05:32,530 well meaning other people I think of 117 00:05:35,490 --> 00:05:34,120 just fools and there's a book out there 118 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:35,500 that someone wrote called you can't 119 00:05:39,810 --> 00:05:36,610 argue with idiots 120 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:39,820 gene gene it's when they get pissy 121 00:05:44,670 --> 00:05:42,490 that's when it really kind of starts to 122 00:05:49,290 --> 00:05:44,680 rub you the wrong way when they're when 123 00:05:52,020 --> 00:05:49,300 they're pissy and and inconsequential 124 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:52,030 with not only where they're coming from 125 00:05:57,510 --> 00:05:54,250 but where they think they're going to it 126 00:06:00,000 --> 00:05:57,520 just it's like a waste of waste of time 127 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:00,010 and you know quite frankly I'm flattered 128 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:02,050 that someone would have a problem with 129 00:06:06,420 --> 00:06:04,090 the fact that the show's getting 130 00:06:10,470 --> 00:06:06,430 successful and people are listening and 131 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:10,480 taking notice and oh well so what 132 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:12,850 happens then is you have people who find 133 00:06:17,159 --> 00:06:15,130 something to criticize and if there 134 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:17,169 isn't anything to criticize they'll make 135 00:06:19,950 --> 00:06:17,770 up something 136 00:06:22,140 --> 00:06:19,960 the problem is with something like that 137 00:06:24,330 --> 00:06:22,150 is you draw more attention to us folks 138 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:24,340 as long as you spell our names right 139 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:26,650 more and more people hear about the para 140 00:06:31,530 --> 00:06:28,210 cast and when someone says don't listen 141 00:06:33,659 --> 00:06:31,540 to that show people decide hey we should 142 00:06:35,930 --> 00:06:33,669 listen to it because we want to find out 143 00:06:38,730 --> 00:06:35,940 what they don't want us to listen to oh 144 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:38,740 good point little reverse psychology so 145 00:06:45,770 --> 00:06:41,530 maybe this is all part of some like 146 00:06:48,210 --> 00:06:45,780 weird Illuminati sort of PR campaign 147 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:48,220 well you know there was this other radio 148 00:06:53,340 --> 00:06:51,010 show this podcast where the person was 149 00:06:57,180 --> 00:06:53,350 saying how we constantly criticized him 150 00:06:59,280 --> 00:06:57,190 on the para cast the problem is we never 151 00:07:01,820 --> 00:06:59,290 mention him on the para cast I guess he 152 00:07:04,710 --> 00:07:01,830 was looking for a fight hoping we would 153 00:07:06,270 --> 00:07:04,720 either that or he was in some alternate 154 00:07:09,270 --> 00:07:06,280 dimension where 155 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:09,280 we actually did mention him on the bear 156 00:07:13,020 --> 00:07:11,170 cast well you have this TV show you 157 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:13,030 don't watch TV see you haven't seen it 158 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:15,490 called fringe and fringe is kind of a 159 00:07:20,580 --> 00:07:18,610 modern-day x-files no I do watch fridge 160 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:20,590 no no let me correct you here I know I 161 00:07:25,530 --> 00:07:23,050 do hulu fringe I like fringe I like JJ 162 00:07:27,659 --> 00:07:25,540 Abrams so I think he's quite brilliant 163 00:07:29,490 --> 00:07:27,669 and after all how many people can get 164 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:29,500 the Leonard Nimoy out of retirement 165 00:07:35,159 --> 00:07:32,290 yeah but he's dead William Bell has 166 00:07:36,930 --> 00:07:35,169 passed on to the other side I guess 167 00:07:38,820 --> 00:07:36,940 literally and I know if you're not 168 00:07:41,310 --> 00:07:38,830 orange listener you have no idea what 169 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:41,320 we're talking about briefly there are 170 00:07:47,430 --> 00:07:43,990 two realities involved here there is our 171 00:07:48,810 --> 00:07:47,440 reality and the other reality and the 172 00:07:51,780 --> 00:07:48,820 lead character one of the lead 173 00:07:55,140 --> 00:07:51,790 characters finds a way to go to this 174 00:07:56,490 --> 00:07:55,150 other reality to save his dying son well 175 00:07:58,830 --> 00:07:56,500 he doesn't save his dying son he just 176 00:08:00,840 --> 00:07:58,840 takes the other counterpart and kidnaps 177 00:08:03,180 --> 00:08:00,850 the kid and brings him over that starts 178 00:08:05,430 --> 00:08:03,190 a rent in the fabric of reality and the 179 00:08:08,850 --> 00:08:05,440 other the other alternate universe is 180 00:08:11,060 --> 00:08:08,860 starting to like get wormholes and these 181 00:08:15,210 --> 00:08:11,070 weird sort of anomalies are appearing 182 00:08:17,969 --> 00:08:15,220 but you notice how it's rooted in this 183 00:08:19,590 --> 00:08:17,979 basic paranormal concept of another 184 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:19,600 universe what would happen if we had the 185 00:08:24,330 --> 00:08:21,970 second universe and what would happen to 186 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:24,340 the fabric of reality if we found a way 187 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:27,130 to travel back and forth to that other 188 00:08:34,709 --> 00:08:30,570 universe well I think our guest tonight 189 00:08:37,820 --> 00:08:34,719 may have some answers for us on how they 190 00:08:40,339 --> 00:08:37,830 travel in this reality in a way that 191 00:08:43,860 --> 00:08:40,349 most of our listeners could possibly 192 00:08:46,470 --> 00:08:43,870 well have a hard time believing Richard 193 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:46,480 solder he's an amazing guy we're gonna 194 00:08:51,570 --> 00:08:48,910 have fun tonight I'll tell you and it's 195 00:08:53,340 --> 00:08:51,580 his fault that we had to get up in the 196 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:53,350 wee hours of the morning and do this 197 00:09:00,780 --> 00:08:56,170 show you know yeah he's down in in 198 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:00,790 Ecuador oh is he he is Wow 199 00:09:07,050 --> 00:09:04,690 Ecuadorian he has left the US of A well 200 00:09:08,490 --> 00:09:07,060 there may be reasons for that you know 201 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:08,500 we're gonna talk about all that aren't 202 00:09:14,220 --> 00:09:11,490 we are the taxes lower down there um 203 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:14,230 yeah and probably the price of bananas 204 00:09:19,079 --> 00:09:17,170 is pretty low too but well as long as I 205 00:09:21,139 --> 00:09:19,089 have a local Apple store know there are 206 00:09:24,869 --> 00:09:21,149 Apple stores in South America are there 207 00:09:28,259 --> 00:09:24,879 no no but they have mangoes and papayas 208 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:28,269 and pineapples and coconuts first off if 209 00:09:32,069 --> 00:09:30,160 you have a question or a comment to make 210 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:32,079 about the power cast we want to hear 211 00:09:36,329 --> 00:09:34,689 from you just send your messages to news 212 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00:14:25,860 --> 00:14:23,699 maybe another galaxy or an underground 311 00:14:27,750 --> 00:14:25,870 chamber we don't know where so we're 312 00:14:29,910 --> 00:14:27,760 gonna get some weird interference with 313 00:14:31,829 --> 00:14:29,920 this connection I'm Jean Steinberg the 314 00:14:34,259 --> 00:14:31,839 co-host is Chris O'Brien you're in the 315 00:14:37,290 --> 00:14:34,269 para cast Chris introduce our special 316 00:14:39,689 --> 00:14:37,300 guest please dr. Richard solder it's 317 00:14:42,750 --> 00:14:39,699 been six or seven years since we talked 318 00:14:45,569 --> 00:14:42,760 it's really good to to talk to you a lot 319 00:14:47,970 --> 00:14:45,579 has gone on in your life in the last 320 00:14:50,670 --> 00:14:47,980 couple of years and for our guests who 321 00:14:52,769 --> 00:14:50,680 aren't aware of who you are I had the 322 00:14:55,050 --> 00:14:52,779 pleasure of finding out about your work 323 00:14:57,329 --> 00:14:55,060 very early on back in the early 90s and 324 00:14:59,939 --> 00:14:57,339 I consider you to be one of our 325 00:15:02,220 --> 00:14:59,949 preeminent if not the preeminent expert 326 00:15:04,579 --> 00:15:02,230 on the the whole subject of underground 327 00:15:08,210 --> 00:15:04,589 bases and underground underwater 328 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:08,220 facilities that probably exist out there 329 00:15:15,030 --> 00:15:12,010 in the black world and and in the very 330 00:15:19,460 --> 00:15:15,040 public world as well and I consider you 331 00:15:22,410 --> 00:15:19,470 one of the most meticulous and just 332 00:15:24,870 --> 00:15:22,420 impressively you blow my mind with your 333 00:15:27,290 --> 00:15:24,880 research and how much you've documented 334 00:15:30,569 --> 00:15:27,300 your work you're very careful about 335 00:15:33,689 --> 00:15:30,579 stating what you know and what we know 336 00:15:35,819 --> 00:15:33,699 and what we don't know and you're you're 337 00:15:37,949 --> 00:15:35,829 not one to fly off and create 338 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:37,959 confabulations based on your data I 339 00:15:44,189 --> 00:15:39,730 think you approach it from a very 340 00:15:46,079 --> 00:15:44,199 grounded very sober perspective and it's 341 00:15:48,449 --> 00:15:46,089 a real pleasure for us to get you on the 342 00:15:49,890 --> 00:15:48,459 podcast and we're talking to 3:00 in the 343 00:15:51,900 --> 00:15:49,900 morning in your time in Ecuador 344 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:51,910 and I really want to thank you so much 345 00:15:57,180 --> 00:15:54,250 for for staying up late and taking the 346 00:15:58,980 --> 00:15:57,190 time to you know allow us to introduce 347 00:16:01,050 --> 00:15:58,990 you to our parrot cast audience so 348 00:16:03,690 --> 00:16:01,060 welcome welcome Richard thank you so 349 00:16:06,090 --> 00:16:03,700 much Chris and Jean it's my pleasure to 350 00:16:08,970 --> 00:16:06,100 be on the broadcast are you you know you 351 00:16:11,579 --> 00:16:08,980 write in the observe Chris that a lot 352 00:16:15,870 --> 00:16:11,589 has happened in intervening several 353 00:16:19,050 --> 00:16:15,880 years since we have seen each other and 354 00:16:22,170 --> 00:16:19,060 my goodness just in the last week we've 355 00:16:24,390 --> 00:16:22,180 had this terrific catastrophe in Japan 356 00:16:27,870 --> 00:16:24,400 with first with the earthquake and the 357 00:16:29,910 --> 00:16:27,880 tsunami now with the radiation nuclear 358 00:16:32,070 --> 00:16:29,920 crisis that just seems to get oh it 359 00:16:34,950 --> 00:16:32,080 seems to get worse with every every 360 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:34,960 passing day of course the United States 361 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:38,850 and and France and England began to 362 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:42,910 another war against Libya let me put 363 00:16:47,070 --> 00:16:45,040 this in perspective the shells we're 364 00:16:48,750 --> 00:16:47,080 gonna pour it on the road about a week 365 00:16:51,630 --> 00:16:48,760 ahead of the time it's actually gonna be 366 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:51,640 broadcast so we are looking at events 367 00:16:55,470 --> 00:16:53,410 that may have unfolded in a somewhat 368 00:16:57,750 --> 00:16:55,480 different way after this so let's just 369 00:17:00,210 --> 00:16:57,760 put that in perspective okay what we can 370 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:00,220 say at this point is that time we're 371 00:17:06,410 --> 00:17:03,130 really facing multiple crises natural 372 00:17:10,530 --> 00:17:06,420 crises foreign policy crises economic 373 00:17:14,189 --> 00:17:10,540 crises and these are likely to continue 374 00:17:17,130 --> 00:17:14,199 and in my view worsen in the coming days 375 00:17:20,970 --> 00:17:17,140 weeks and months the earth stands poorly 376 00:17:24,660 --> 00:17:20,980 at a very eventful threshold and the 377 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:24,670 human race really has its decision who 378 00:17:29,580 --> 00:17:26,890 are multiple decisions to make 379 00:17:33,150 --> 00:17:29,590 at this juncture as to how we're going 380 00:17:38,730 --> 00:17:33,160 to govern our bears now and going 381 00:17:41,220 --> 00:17:38,740 forward and that will determine our 382 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:41,230 future the character of our future in 383 00:17:44,990 --> 00:17:43,570 coming years and decades this is a very 384 00:17:48,870 --> 00:17:45,000 crucial period 385 00:17:52,020 --> 00:17:48,880 well Richard as someone that has now a 386 00:17:54,030 --> 00:17:52,030 doctorate in studying ecology in the 387 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:54,040 environment I I'm not exactly sure what 388 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:56,410 your doctorate is in the specific 389 00:18:01,020 --> 00:17:58,330 discipline but I do know that you're 390 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:01,030 very very up to speed on in 391 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:04,570 our mental concerns and an ecology what 392 00:18:12,540 --> 00:18:08,410 what does this recent multiple nuclear 393 00:18:15,750 --> 00:18:12,550 reactor Fiasco what does that I mean how 394 00:18:17,190 --> 00:18:15,760 does that bode for you know the four or 395 00:18:18,900 --> 00:18:17,200 five hundred nuclear reactors that we 396 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:18,910 have here on the planet and and do you 397 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:21,490 see this as a harbinger of of future 398 00:18:28,860 --> 00:18:24,730 events potentially I mean what what does 399 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:28,870 this new ratcheting up of ecological 400 00:18:34,500 --> 00:18:31,570 concerns around specifically nuclear 401 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:34,510 power I mean what does this what kind of 402 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:36,490 alarm bells ring in your mind or do are 403 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:40,210 there any alarm bells well sure there la 404 00:18:44,570 --> 00:18:42,610 I'm bill Turing and this is a absolutely 405 00:18:47,430 --> 00:18:44,580 a watershed event 406 00:18:51,060 --> 00:18:47,440 dr. Helen Caldicott who has been a very 407 00:18:55,260 --> 00:18:51,070 active and dinuclear campaigner for the 408 00:18:58,260 --> 00:18:55,270 last what 30 years or more has said the 409 00:19:03,030 --> 00:18:58,270 same that this this is a global 410 00:19:05,430 --> 00:19:03,040 catastrophe and it may be that the human 411 00:19:08,390 --> 00:19:05,440 race needs a wake-up call like this in 412 00:19:12,060 --> 00:19:08,400 order to see the absolute insanity of 413 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:12,070 the nuclear weapons nuclear weapons and 414 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:14,730 nuclear power plants and the fact that 415 00:19:19,370 --> 00:19:17,650 we just can't handle this it's a 416 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:19,380 technology that the human race is 417 00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:22,090 demonstrated again and again that it's 418 00:19:29,580 --> 00:19:24,310 not wise enough not savvy enough to deal 419 00:19:32,580 --> 00:19:29,590 with and so it looks like there will be 420 00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:32,590 a global movement against so-called 421 00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:35,200 nuclear power and probably also against 422 00:19:40,350 --> 00:19:37,270 nuclear weapons in the coming weeks 423 00:19:42,660 --> 00:19:40,360 month 10 years of course I've been at a 424 00:19:44,790 --> 00:19:42,670 nuclear activist in the past myself I've 425 00:19:48,300 --> 00:19:44,800 I have three times during the course of 426 00:19:51,810 --> 00:19:48,310 my life gone on to nuclear missile silos 427 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:51,820 in the United States and I have 428 00:19:56,550 --> 00:19:54,450 conducted nonviolent peaceful 429 00:20:00,450 --> 00:19:56,560 demonstrations on the launch lids of 430 00:20:03,300 --> 00:20:00,460 nuclear missiles missile silos for which 431 00:20:05,940 --> 00:20:03,310 I have been repeatedly jailed including 432 00:20:09,510 --> 00:20:05,950 this past year in the state of North 433 00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:09,520 Dakota my expectation is that there will 434 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:13,600 be many more people who will awaken be 435 00:20:18,390 --> 00:20:15,250 awaken to the danger of nuclear weapons 436 00:20:20,610 --> 00:20:18,400 and nuclear power as this year as we go 437 00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:20,620 deeper into this year Richard just let 438 00:20:24,300 --> 00:20:22,480 me ask you is that why you're in Ecuador 439 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:24,310 because they're looking for you here 440 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:27,970 maybe I'm being half serious no no I'm 441 00:20:33,810 --> 00:20:30,090 not South America because I'm being 442 00:20:36,390 --> 00:20:33,820 looked for in the United States I came 443 00:20:39,810 --> 00:20:36,400 down here on a vacation and on a Vision 444 00:20:42,330 --> 00:20:39,820 Quest and decided to stay after I was 445 00:20:45,870 --> 00:20:42,340 here two or three weeks I decided to 446 00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:45,880 stay I saw no reason to return my 447 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:50,110 effective come to regard the United 448 00:20:57,360 --> 00:20:54,730 States government as a great evil and a 449 00:20:59,400 --> 00:20:57,370 source of tremendous trouble and 450 00:21:03,420 --> 00:20:59,410 oppression and in the world I no longer 451 00:21:05,850 --> 00:21:03,430 desire desired to physically reside and 452 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:05,860 the United States and so I have elected 453 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:08,770 not to return and it's possible that I 454 00:21:14,670 --> 00:21:12,130 will not come back to the United States 455 00:21:17,490 --> 00:21:14,680 for a very long time it is my intention 456 00:21:18,450 --> 00:21:17,500 to remain in South America for the 457 00:21:22,380 --> 00:21:18,460 foreseeable future 458 00:21:24,420 --> 00:21:22,390 all right the main focus of course I 459 00:21:27,060 --> 00:21:24,430 guess we're going to cover for this 460 00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:27,070 episode is your investigation to what 461 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:30,640 they call underground bases and I was 462 00:21:32,970 --> 00:21:32,410 looking here when doing research about 463 00:21:37,790 --> 00:21:32,980 you 464 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:37,800 with including hidden in plain sight 465 00:21:44,730 --> 00:21:42,730 beyond the x-files so when we talk about 466 00:21:46,170 --> 00:21:44,740 underground bases and we're going to 467 00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:46,180 continue with this with our next segment 468 00:21:53,820 --> 00:21:50,400 are we speaking here of military bases 469 00:21:56,370 --> 00:21:53,830 that they have for whatever reason they 470 00:22:01,770 --> 00:21:56,380 do things underground are we talking 471 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:01,780 about bases from other beings either 472 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:04,210 from here or from other planets that 473 00:22:08,910 --> 00:22:06,130 kind of thing that's one of the things 474 00:22:10,530 --> 00:22:08,920 we want to cover a reminder of folks if 475 00:22:14,220 --> 00:22:10,540 you want to contact us here at the 476 00:22:17,790 --> 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00:27:33,110 the question when we talk about 603 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:36,480 underground bases where are these bases 604 00:27:43,670 --> 00:27:40,410 sources were they people by tell us well 605 00:27:45,500 --> 00:27:43,680 you know there are more than there's 606 00:27:48,860 --> 00:27:45,510 more than one kind of underground base 607 00:27:50,900 --> 00:27:48,870 and certainly the military 608 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:50,910 the United States military and other 609 00:27:58,010 --> 00:27:55,530 militaries have underground bases but 610 00:28:00,680 --> 00:27:58,020 it's not only the military agencies that 611 00:28:03,650 --> 00:28:00,690 are active underground they are but it's 612 00:28:06,410 --> 00:28:03,660 not only them that you will find in 613 00:28:08,780 --> 00:28:06,420 underground there are wide variety of 614 00:28:11,780 --> 00:28:08,790 agencies and organizations and 615 00:28:14,270 --> 00:28:11,790 corporations that have made underground 616 00:28:16,820 --> 00:28:14,280 facilities of all kinds and in fact it's 617 00:28:20,270 --> 00:28:16,830 it's important to understand that an 618 00:28:24,340 --> 00:28:20,280 underground facility or base can be a 619 00:28:26,570 --> 00:28:24,350 and frequently would be multi-purpose 620 00:28:29,210 --> 00:28:26,580 some of the things that you would find 621 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:29,220 underground of course would be weapons 622 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:33,930 systems both weapons storage and active 623 00:28:38,570 --> 00:28:36,690 weapon systems deployment these could be 624 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:38,580 nuclear weapon systems and other sorts 625 00:28:45,050 --> 00:28:42,170 as well you could find and do find 626 00:28:47,630 --> 00:28:45,060 scientific and engineering installations 627 00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:47,640 underground of course it would be 628 00:28:54,620 --> 00:28:50,480 industrial facilities of various kinds 629 00:28:58,100 --> 00:28:54,630 all so command control and 630 00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:58,110 communications facilities both military 631 00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:00,000 and non-military there are facilities 632 00:29:06,020 --> 00:29:03,360 that store data or that would have 633 00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:06,030 computer systems including super 634 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:07,760 computing systems underground 635 00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:10,650 transportation facilities power 636 00:29:16,140 --> 00:29:14,110 generation facilities and on and on 637 00:29:19,220 --> 00:29:16,150 many different kinds of facilities 638 00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:19,230 underground and of course they can be 639 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:23,590 and frequently are quite large I've run 640 00:29:30,810 --> 00:29:26,770 across references to facilities able to 641 00:29:33,450 --> 00:29:30,820 accommodate 2,000 personnel or more they 642 00:29:36,930 --> 00:29:33,460 can and do in many cases sprawl from 643 00:29:39,419 --> 00:29:36,940 miles underground they can be quite a 644 00:29:41,730 --> 00:29:39,429 bit deep and when I see deep I'm not 645 00:29:43,530 --> 00:29:41,740 talking at you just about hundreds of 646 00:29:46,289 --> 00:29:43,540 feet underground or even thousands of 647 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:46,299 feet in some cases they can be a mile or 648 00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:49,330 more underground so when I say deep I 649 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:52,000 mean they can be extraordinarily deep 650 00:29:57,630 --> 00:29:54,970 the technology that's deployed in some 651 00:30:00,659 --> 00:29:57,640 of these facilities is just cutting edge 652 00:30:03,030 --> 00:30:00,669 it can be very sophisticated virtually 653 00:30:05,490 --> 00:30:03,040 scythe sci-fi like science fiction like 654 00:30:10,169 --> 00:30:05,500 and of course many of these facilities 655 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:10,179 would be if not clandestine and and very 656 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:16,090 secretive very highly secure so that the 657 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:17,890 average member of the public would find 658 00:30:21,030 --> 00:30:19,570 it very difficult to get in a lot of 659 00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:21,040 these facilities number one because 660 00:30:25,710 --> 00:30:23,679 there were about to not or is publicly 661 00:30:28,650 --> 00:30:25,720 known but even if they are publicly 662 00:30:33,299 --> 00:30:28,660 known you don't just walk in because the 663 00:30:37,860 --> 00:30:33,309 security level is usually very high and 664 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:37,870 and designed to thwart just casual 665 00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:40,330 people you know people with casual 666 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:44,110 curiosity from just walking in off the 667 00:30:48,659 --> 00:30:46,570 street so to speak it's very hard to do 668 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:48,669 that one of the things that has always 669 00:30:53,820 --> 00:30:52,210 impressed me about your research and one 670 00:30:56,549 --> 00:30:53,830 thing that stuck with me for many years 671 00:31:00,030 --> 00:30:56,559 was your admonition to a conference 672 00:31:01,919 --> 00:31:00,040 audience back I think in 96 to you 673 00:31:05,789 --> 00:31:01,929 challenged the audience to go out and 674 00:31:07,770 --> 00:31:05,799 find from any appropriations bill and I 675 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:07,780 do seem to remember that you comb 676 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:10,290 through many years of congressional 677 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:13,090 appropriation bills looking for funding 678 00:31:18,390 --> 00:31:16,090 that could could possibly explain how 679 00:31:21,630 --> 00:31:18,400 they were able to afford and we and 680 00:31:23,970 --> 00:31:21,640 where the money came to build these at 681 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:23,980 least 130 I think 682 00:31:30,110 --> 00:31:27,250 facilities if not more by now have you 683 00:31:34,350 --> 00:31:30,120 ever been able to find any sort of 684 00:31:38,430 --> 00:31:34,360 documentation how many of these go ahead 685 00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:38,440 well sure from various sources you can 686 00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:41,590 find some dribs and drabs of information 687 00:31:47,370 --> 00:31:44,049 but understand that quite a lot of this 688 00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:47,380 the lion's share of this type of work at 689 00:31:52,380 --> 00:31:49,840 least as regards United States 690 00:31:57,530 --> 00:31:52,390 government facilities and/or corporate 691 00:32:00,060 --> 00:31:57,540 facilities fortune 500 for example that 692 00:32:02,250 --> 00:32:00,070 the lion's share of this construction 693 00:32:05,450 --> 00:32:02,260 and the maintenance is done off the 694 00:32:09,630 --> 00:32:05,460 public record so when you go looking in 695 00:32:12,539 --> 00:32:09,640 publicly available budget documentation 696 00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:12,549 for example you will find very little in 697 00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:15,760 the way of a smoking gun because so much 698 00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:17,200 of it is it's classified 699 00:32:23,610 --> 00:32:20,350 we're not even classified it's done 700 00:32:26,030 --> 00:32:23,620 totally in the black world so that there 701 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:26,040 are no in terms of finding 702 00:32:30,750 --> 00:32:28,570 appropriations records and 703 00:32:32,750 --> 00:32:30,760 appropriations bills for example you 704 00:32:36,539 --> 00:32:32,760 won't you won't find much of anything 705 00:32:39,690 --> 00:32:36,549 but I have documented in in my 706 00:32:42,390 --> 00:32:39,700 conference talks and other articles and 707 00:32:46,890 --> 00:32:42,400 books things like for example Bill gahl 708 00:32:50,130 --> 00:32:46,900 is well from 20 or 30 years ago entitled 709 00:32:52,940 --> 00:32:50,140 breaking cover and Bill gahl a worked in 710 00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:52,950 the military office in the White House 711 00:32:57,690 --> 00:32:55,600 for four or five administrations 712 00:32:59,549 --> 00:32:57,700 starting will be back in the end of the 713 00:33:01,140 --> 00:32:59,559 Eisenhower administration and going all 714 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:01,150 the way up into there the Carter 715 00:33:06,210 --> 00:33:04,570 Administration and excuse me I think he 716 00:33:10,530 --> 00:33:06,220 actually started in the Johnson 717 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:10,540 administration but what Bill caller I'll 718 00:33:16,650 --> 00:33:13,210 call a GU ll e Y revealed was that 719 00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:16,660 already starting in the 50s under 720 00:33:21,270 --> 00:33:18,910 Eisenhower there was a concerted program 721 00:33:23,730 --> 00:33:21,280 to make underground facilities for the 722 00:33:27,270 --> 00:33:23,740 president's to use and there were scores 723 00:33:29,370 --> 00:33:27,280 of these made during the night period 724 00:33:31,210 --> 00:33:29,380 although all the way starting back into 725 00:33:33,910 --> 00:33:31,220 50s I think there was something like 726 00:33:35,710 --> 00:33:33,920 seventy of them made so beginning back 727 00:33:39,850 --> 00:33:35,720 in the 50s and actually my research 728 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:39,860 shows before there was a ongoing program 729 00:33:46,180 --> 00:33:42,290 of construction of state-of-the-art 730 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:46,190 underground bases and that continues to 731 00:33:50,410 --> 00:33:48,530 the present day now the military office 732 00:33:52,450 --> 00:33:50,420 in the White House is something that's 733 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:52,460 virtually under the president's control 734 00:34:00,340 --> 00:33:56,650 and it and here's the discretion alone 735 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:00,350 it's top secret that you really wouldn't 736 00:34:06,670 --> 00:34:04,610 find any funding information forward on 737 00:34:09,370 --> 00:34:06,680 the public record because it's it's off 738 00:34:12,820 --> 00:34:09,380 the books so to speak and goal in fact 739 00:34:15,610 --> 00:34:12,830 made a point of of demonstrating that 740 00:34:19,810 --> 00:34:15,620 even if you were to go to look the most 741 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:19,820 dedicated spy forensic accounting spy 742 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:22,610 for example would have difficulty 743 00:34:28,630 --> 00:34:24,890 finding the funding trail for this 744 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:28,640 because it's so artfully and deceitfully 745 00:34:33,700 --> 00:34:32,090 hidden that even if you knew what you 746 00:34:36,580 --> 00:34:33,710 were doing it would be hard to find it 747 00:34:40,510 --> 00:34:36,590 so quite a lot of this construction has 748 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:40,520 is completely off the books and can't be 749 00:34:45,910 --> 00:34:42,890 found by the average member of the 750 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:45,920 public can even by a some someone as 751 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:49,130 expertise and forensic accounting even 752 00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:50,890 then you wouldn't be able to find it so 753 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:54,110 we have been snookered we have been lied 754 00:34:59,410 --> 00:34:56,690 to and we have our Park our collective 755 00:35:01,780 --> 00:34:59,420 pockets have been picked that's the long 756 00:35:04,980 --> 00:35:01,790 and short of it so the big question here 757 00:35:08,620 --> 00:35:04,990 is what purpose do these mysterious 758 00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:08,630 unaccounted for bases serve well and and 759 00:35:14,340 --> 00:35:10,910 what we can say is they serve at least 760 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:14,350 purposes that I cited a few minutes ago 761 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:18,050 but likely far more my research 762 00:35:24,180 --> 00:35:20,510 indicates that there are secret weapons 763 00:35:26,830 --> 00:35:24,190 programs underground certainly also 764 00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:26,840 secret engineering programs of various 765 00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:29,510 sorts which would would likely include 766 00:35:35,490 --> 00:35:32,510 genetic engineering also cutting-edge 767 00:35:38,530 --> 00:35:35,500 research in material science in 768 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:38,540 supercomputing in weapons research in 769 00:35:44,609 --> 00:35:40,730 energy research 770 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:44,619 and I strongly suggest this suspect that 771 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:47,930 organized crime has underground 772 00:35:51,849 --> 00:35:50,570 facilities and is active in them and to 773 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:51,859 get around to your question of a few 774 00:35:57,870 --> 00:35:54,770 minutes ago the evidence strongly points 775 00:36:01,560 --> 00:35:57,880 in juror in the direction of off-planet 776 00:36:03,970 --> 00:36:01,570 intelligences and civilizations 777 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:03,980 interacting underground on this planet 778 00:36:08,590 --> 00:36:06,650 as well including with very secretive 779 00:36:12,220 --> 00:36:08,600 elements of the military industrial 780 00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:12,230 espionage complex both underground and 781 00:36:17,650 --> 00:36:15,680 undersea and evidently this has been 782 00:36:19,870 --> 00:36:17,660 going on for at least the past half 783 00:36:22,810 --> 00:36:19,880 century and perhaps more alright so 784 00:36:25,450 --> 00:36:22,820 let's try to strip the fact that well 785 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:25,460 that's a sayin how yes we could possibly 786 00:36:32,740 --> 00:36:29,650 figure out how to prove this and how you 787 00:36:35,140 --> 00:36:32,750 discovered this what evidence led you to 788 00:36:37,150 --> 00:36:35,150 believe that these bases exist a lot 789 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:37,160 more to cover if you have a question or 790 00:36:41,140 --> 00:36:39,050 a comment to make about the power cast 791 00:36:43,660 --> 00:36:41,150 we want to hear from you just send your 792 00:36:46,540 --> 00:36:43,670 messages to news at the power cast calm 793 00:36:48,910 --> 00:36:46,550 that's news at the power cast comm dr. 794 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:48,920 Richard Souders our guest I'm Jean 795 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:51,170 Steinberg the co-host is Chris O'Brien 796 00:36:59,810 --> 00:36:54,890 you're in the para cast 797 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00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:15,320 you're in the bear guest you never know 897 00:41:20,829 --> 00:41:18,160 what's going to happen next 898 00:41:23,809 --> 00:41:20,839 [Applause] 899 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:23,819 on the para cast with gene Steinberg and 900 00:41:28,970 --> 00:41:26,490 Chris O'Brien we have dr. Richard Sauter 901 00:41:31,180 --> 00:41:28,980 he's has a number of books on the 902 00:41:33,799 --> 00:41:31,190 subject that's secret underground bases 903 00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:33,809 including hidden in plain sight beyond 904 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:35,609 the x-files which by the way has a 905 00:41:41,180 --> 00:41:37,890 foreword by our old friend Richard Dolan 906 00:41:44,289 --> 00:41:41,190 so very interesting there okay Richard 907 00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:44,299 so the big question is here how did you 908 00:41:49,549 --> 00:41:47,460 discover the existence of these bases 909 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:49,559 where's the proof how do we find it if 910 00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:52,170 it's being kept such a big dark secret 911 00:41:57,079 --> 00:41:54,240 well first gene let's let's talk about 912 00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:57,089 what's motivation to get to get involved 913 00:42:01,940 --> 00:42:00,480 in all this that story is is one of the 914 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:01,950 most compelling stories I've ever heard 915 00:42:06,529 --> 00:42:04,170 from a fellow researcher okay well I 916 00:42:09,859 --> 00:42:06,539 like backstories so okay so let's have 917 00:42:13,509 --> 00:42:09,869 your backstory tell us how you got 918 00:42:17,420 --> 00:42:13,519 dragged into this well you know back in 919 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:17,430 the late 1980s I moved out to the 920 00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:21,210 southwest to pursue continue my graduate 921 00:42:27,229 --> 00:42:24,720 studies and and studies for a doctorate 922 00:42:30,019 --> 00:42:27,239 which which I did obtain that after 923 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:30,029 several years of very hard work but when 924 00:42:35,450 --> 00:42:32,130 I first arrived in the southwest in New 925 00:42:37,849 --> 00:42:35,460 Mexico I heard people on whom I had met 926 00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:37,859 casual acquaintances speaking about 927 00:42:43,759 --> 00:42:40,710 purported secret underground bases and 928 00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:43,769 tunnels in that region of North America 929 00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:46,049 where there were purported little grey 930 00:42:54,249 --> 00:42:51,599 aliens working you know side by side 931 00:42:57,979 --> 00:42:54,259 with allegedly with clandestine elements 932 00:43:00,460 --> 00:42:57,989 of the United States military and I 933 00:43:04,039 --> 00:43:00,470 found these stories very interesting I 934 00:43:06,729 --> 00:43:04,049 had no way to disprove or prove them but 935 00:43:09,499 --> 00:43:06,739 I listened to what people had to say and 936 00:43:12,140 --> 00:43:09,509 after a few years went by I had a break 937 00:43:16,430 --> 00:43:12,150 in my schedule in my academic schedule 938 00:43:18,829 --> 00:43:16,440 and I decided to look into this and find 939 00:43:22,130 --> 00:43:18,839 out if there were really secret 940 00:43:25,180 --> 00:43:22,140 underground bases well what I found out 941 00:43:28,130 --> 00:43:25,190 open my eyes I found out yeah there are 942 00:43:29,500 --> 00:43:28,140 good many underground bases all over the 943 00:43:31,540 --> 00:43:29,510 country I 944 00:43:33,970 --> 00:43:31,550 able to determine if there were little 945 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:33,980 gray aliens in these bases but I 946 00:43:38,140 --> 00:43:35,930 established to my satisfaction that 947 00:43:40,750 --> 00:43:38,150 indeed there were plenty of underground 948 00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:40,760 bases and I did that by just doing basic 949 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:43,910 research I went to the library and found 950 00:43:51,099 --> 00:43:47,530 red books and an articles and documents 951 00:43:54,180 --> 00:43:51,109 just using keyword searches in those 952 00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:54,190 days almost 20 years ago there was still 953 00:44:00,640 --> 00:43:58,160 paper card catalogs that you want to 954 00:44:02,170 --> 00:44:00,650 throw in there were paper cards and then 955 00:44:05,260 --> 00:44:02,180 you went to the stacks in the library 956 00:44:06,730 --> 00:44:05,270 and you found documents and and books 957 00:44:07,420 --> 00:44:06,740 and you read what was there which is 958 00:44:11,130 --> 00:44:07,430 what I did 959 00:44:13,510 --> 00:44:11,140 nowadays most libraries have online 960 00:44:15,849 --> 00:44:13,520 catalogs and you search electronically 961 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:15,859 so you consider search much faster now 962 00:44:20,020 --> 00:44:17,810 than you could you know fifteen or 963 00:44:22,570 --> 00:44:20,030 twenty years ago but that's what I did 964 00:44:24,310 --> 00:44:22,580 and I found a good a good bit of 965 00:44:27,810 --> 00:44:24,320 information and so I wrote a short 966 00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:27,820 article for UFO magazine in Los Angeles 967 00:44:35,290 --> 00:44:31,910 but run by um uh Don Ecker and 968 00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:35,300 vickicooper and they published my little 969 00:44:38,740 --> 00:44:37,280 brief article saying that I couldn't 970 00:44:41,740 --> 00:44:38,750 answer the question as to whether there 971 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:41,750 were little grey aliens underground in 972 00:44:46,180 --> 00:44:43,850 these bases but in fact there were a 973 00:44:49,330 --> 00:44:46,190 good number and there are a good number 974 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:49,340 of underground bases run by a variety of 975 00:44:54,730 --> 00:44:52,490 agencies and organizations the United 976 00:44:57,070 --> 00:44:54,740 States military but others as well it's 977 00:45:00,220 --> 00:44:57,080 not just a military underground or they 978 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:00,230 are underground - okay so you're looking 979 00:45:06,780 --> 00:45:03,890 up information in libraries that appear 980 00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:06,790 to point to the existence of these bases 981 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:10,910 but this is something that I guess the 982 00:45:17,380 --> 00:45:14,450 media everything pardon me I'm trying to 983 00:45:19,540 --> 00:45:17,390 understand how this comes to you but 984 00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:19,550 nobody else seems to have found the 985 00:45:24,060 --> 00:45:20,960 existence of these spaces we've heard 986 00:45:27,090 --> 00:45:24,070 rumors of course of these bases but 987 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:27,100 where do you see the hidden information 988 00:45:31,630 --> 00:45:29,690 how is it as they say in that book 989 00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:31,640 hidden in plain sight for everyone to 990 00:45:36,070 --> 00:45:33,920 find why would they do that wouldn't 991 00:45:38,530 --> 00:45:36,080 they want to keep it to a point where 992 00:45:40,420 --> 00:45:38,540 nobody can find out what these things 993 00:45:41,650 --> 00:45:40,430 are what these bases are where they're 994 00:45:44,380 --> 00:45:41,660 located unless they have 995 00:45:46,180 --> 00:45:44,390 need to know well well well let me 996 00:45:48,490 --> 00:45:46,190 finish you see my and it's a short 997 00:45:50,859 --> 00:45:48,500 question but the answer is longer than 998 00:45:53,950 --> 00:45:50,869 much longer than the question so if 999 00:45:59,200 --> 00:45:53,960 you'll let me have you speaking as we go 1000 00:46:01,839 --> 00:45:59,210 go along you'll see so I I documented 1001 00:46:04,299 --> 00:46:01,849 quite a few underground bases just from 1002 00:46:06,849 --> 00:46:04,309 the public record there are a fair 1003 00:46:09,870 --> 00:46:06,859 number of them that are publicly known 1004 00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:09,880 and so I wrote this short article and 1005 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:14,000 they published it in UFO magazine it 1006 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:15,890 appeared in the first week of November 1007 00:46:25,329 --> 00:46:22,250 in 1992 19 years ago now so at that 1008 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:25,339 point I had a feeling that I had been 1009 00:46:32,170 --> 00:46:28,490 there and done that that I had exhausted 1010 00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:32,180 the topic well less than two months 1011 00:46:39,370 --> 00:46:37,089 later over the holidays in 1992 I was 1012 00:46:42,210 --> 00:46:39,380 sleeping South only one night in the 1013 00:46:45,309 --> 00:46:42,220 week between Christmas and New Year's 1014 00:46:49,380 --> 00:46:45,319 when I was suddenly awakened from a very 1015 00:46:52,029 --> 00:46:49,390 sound sleep and all of a sudden I was 1016 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:52,039 laying there on my back in the dark in 1017 00:46:58,990 --> 00:46:54,890 my apartment in Albuquerque New Mexico 1018 00:47:01,960 --> 00:46:59,000 and I was suddenly very relaxed very 1019 00:47:04,359 --> 00:47:01,970 wide awake very alert and wondering 1020 00:47:06,490 --> 00:47:04,369 wondering why that was the case well I 1021 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:06,500 didn't have to wonder long because 1022 00:47:12,279 --> 00:47:08,930 suddenly I heard a very clear voice in 1023 00:47:15,900 --> 00:47:12,289 my ear just as if someone had put the 1024 00:47:18,849 --> 00:47:15,910 earpiece from a transistor radio or a 1025 00:47:22,930 --> 00:47:18,859 similar small electronic device in my 1026 00:47:25,870 --> 00:47:22,940 ear and suddenly I heard a voice from 1027 00:47:29,529 --> 00:47:25,880 out of nowhere speak to me in my inner 1028 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:29,539 ear directly and the voice addressed me 1029 00:47:35,620 --> 00:47:33,170 and and I'll never forget what the voice 1030 00:47:38,140 --> 00:47:35,630 said to me it said the underground bases 1031 00:47:40,569 --> 00:47:38,150 are real now that's a dramatically 1032 00:47:42,849 --> 00:47:40,579 dramatic opening on line it grabbed my 1033 00:47:44,859 --> 00:47:42,859 attention immediately now from the 1034 00:47:46,540 --> 00:47:44,869 beginning from the first second split 1035 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:46,550 second literally 1036 00:47:51,820 --> 00:47:48,530 I never had any question as to what was 1037 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:51,830 happening I understood immediately why 1038 00:47:56,620 --> 00:47:53,210 the voice was speaking to me I 1039 00:47:59,010 --> 00:47:56,630 understood that the voice was was that 1040 00:48:01,590 --> 00:47:59,020 of the voice was that of an adult 1041 00:48:04,750 --> 00:48:01,600 Caucasian male speaking normally 1042 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:04,760 accented late twentieth century English 1043 00:48:10,990 --> 00:48:07,730 was the voice of a university educated 1044 00:48:13,060 --> 00:48:11,000 adult male and I understood immediately 1045 00:48:14,110 --> 00:48:13,070 that he had some direct knowledge of 1046 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:14,120 underground bases 1047 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:16,250 I understand immediately he was speaking 1048 00:48:22,420 --> 00:48:19,130 to me using some electronic means that 1049 00:48:24,910 --> 00:48:22,430 permitted him to transmit his voice into 1050 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:24,920 my inner ear or into my auditory cortex 1051 00:48:33,390 --> 00:48:28,370 I understand and he was using something 1052 00:48:39,070 --> 00:48:35,860 you know Richard shaver and Estella 1053 00:48:43,230 --> 00:48:39,080 greys if you remember that story well 1054 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:43,240 yes yes yes yes but yes and you know 1055 00:48:49,870 --> 00:48:46,130 this this voice then went on to tell me 1056 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:49,880 that there are many underground bases 1057 00:48:55,450 --> 00:48:51,170 and there are many people working in 1058 00:48:59,230 --> 00:48:55,460 them that technology being used them in 1059 00:49:03,190 --> 00:48:59,240 them as sophisticated and advanced that 1060 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:03,200 it that there are our large projects and 1061 00:49:09,490 --> 00:49:05,810 programs being carried out that the 1062 00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:09,500 average person does not suspect even 1063 00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:12,110 exists but that if the average person 1064 00:49:16,780 --> 00:49:14,480 were to know about them and learn about 1065 00:49:19,630 --> 00:49:16,790 what is happening underground it they 1066 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:19,640 would just be amazed and astonished at 1067 00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:21,650 the scope and the breadth of what is 1068 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:24,110 happening and that a lot of this is very 1069 00:49:28,750 --> 00:49:26,690 highly unusual and he went on in that 1070 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:28,760 drain for two or three two or three 1071 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:32,450 minutes and and and what he said gave me 1072 00:49:36,810 --> 00:49:34,370 to understand that there are 1073 00:49:39,820 --> 00:49:36,820 corporations and agencies and 1074 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:39,830 organizations involved and that is all 1075 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:43,130 it's happening on it on a large scale so 1076 00:49:46,060 --> 00:49:44,570 he went on like that for two or three 1077 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:46,070 minutes and then just stopped it 1078 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:48,770 abruptly as he had begun that sounds 1079 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:50,930 like a throat here you know it sounds 1080 00:49:54,970 --> 00:49:52,970 like a deep throat kind of character so 1081 00:49:57,859 --> 00:49:54,980 he picked you out because you wrote the 1082 00:50:00,229 --> 00:49:57,869 article for UFO magazine I think so he 1083 00:50:02,140 --> 00:50:00,239 directly cite the article but it was 1084 00:50:06,829 --> 00:50:02,150 clear to me that that was why he 1085 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:06,839 selected me to talk to and so when he 1086 00:50:11,509 --> 00:50:09,450 finished I was left laying there in the 1087 00:50:14,359 --> 00:50:11,519 dark on my back thinking wow you know 1088 00:50:18,650 --> 00:50:14,369 this is a lot of information here and if 1089 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:18,660 it is true it means that there must be a 1090 00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:20,729 paper trail because what he described to 1091 00:50:27,140 --> 00:50:24,089 me was very large in scope and I decided 1092 00:50:29,690 --> 00:50:27,150 then and I knew there had to be fortune 1093 00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:29,700 500 companies involved and in many 1094 00:50:34,370 --> 00:50:31,680 different agencies involved and I knew 1095 00:50:37,969 --> 00:50:34,380 because of my studies in political 1096 00:50:40,430 --> 00:50:37,979 science that there had to be a paper 1097 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:40,440 trail because bureaucracies if they do 1098 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:42,690 nothing else they produce paper and lots 1099 00:50:49,099 --> 00:50:46,650 of it and so the very next day I began 1100 00:50:51,079 --> 00:50:49,109 my arc archival research I ramped it up 1101 00:50:55,459 --> 00:50:51,089 to the next level and I just combed 1102 00:50:58,809 --> 00:50:55,469 through everything industrial records 1103 00:51:03,559 --> 00:50:58,819 and documents and and and and and 1104 00:51:07,579 --> 00:51:03,569 reports military reports and and I mean 1105 00:51:10,190 --> 00:51:07,589 everything from A to Z books magazines I 1106 00:51:12,859 --> 00:51:10,200 did keyword searches starting all the 1107 00:51:15,380 --> 00:51:12,869 way back in the 40s in the World War two 1108 00:51:18,109 --> 00:51:15,390 period and coming forward and I found 1109 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:18,119 plenty of evidence for a wide variety of 1110 00:51:26,059 --> 00:51:20,729 agencies military agencies civil 1111 00:51:28,579 --> 00:51:26,069 agencies fortune 500 companies agencies 1112 00:51:30,410 --> 00:51:28,589 like the RAND Corporation for example 1113 00:51:31,849 --> 00:51:30,420 and on and on I'll tell you I need to 1114 00:51:32,509 --> 00:51:31,859 interrupt Richard what we have to do 1115 00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:32,519 this break 1116 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:35,910 Richard Souder PhD joining us I'm Jean 1117 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:37,890 Steinberg the co-host is Chris O'Brien 1118 00:51:52,590 --> 00:51:49,760 [Music] 1119 00:51:54,810 --> 00:51:52,600 hi Ted Anderson announcing a great way 1120 00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:54,820 to listen to radio on the telephone by 1121 00:51:59,100 --> 00:51:57,040 calling seven six oh five six nine 1122 00:52:01,650 --> 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we're talking about how he first learned 1151 00:53:23,210 --> 00:53:22,109 of the existence of underground bases of 1152 00:53:25,250 --> 00:53:23,220 one sort or another 1153 00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:25,260 the cause is Chris O'Brien I'm gene 1154 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:27,119 Steinberg you're in the power cast now 1155 00:53:31,069 --> 00:53:29,490 I'm going to ask the devil's advocate 1156 00:53:33,380 --> 00:53:31,079 question here which I got to do Richard 1157 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:33,390 so let's understand it has to be asked 1158 00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:36,810 okay so you heard this voice you're home 1159 00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:37,710 in bed 1160 00:53:41,900 --> 00:53:39,839 you weren't just screaming were you well 1161 00:53:44,450 --> 00:53:41,910 no you see because this this is the 1162 00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:44,460 reality check I went out and checked 1163 00:53:50,930 --> 00:53:48,000 with the voice had told me and found 1164 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:50,940 that indeed there was plentiful evidence 1165 00:53:55,339 --> 00:53:53,010 and I continued you know right on down 1166 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:55,349 to the years to find plentiful evidence 1167 00:53:59,480 --> 00:53:57,210 that what the voice told me was 1168 00:54:03,339 --> 00:53:59,490 absolutely true and in fact what was 1169 00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:03,349 interesting to me was some years later I 1170 00:54:10,900 --> 00:54:07,950 was talking to a source that I can't 1171 00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:10,910 publicly identify and I was almost 1172 00:54:16,819 --> 00:54:14,250 floored when the source because I've 1173 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:16,829 written about this this incident and in 1174 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:18,930 my books and spoken about it and in a 1175 00:54:26,300 --> 00:54:21,170 variety of interviews over the years and 1176 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:26,310 the source said to me point-blank was it 1177 00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:30,450 my voice that you heard and and I had to 1178 00:54:38,750 --> 00:54:35,730 say because well because some years had 1179 00:54:42,290 --> 00:54:38,760 passed I had to tell the source just as 1180 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:42,300 frankly as I had been asked you know now 1181 00:54:51,290 --> 00:54:45,930 that you asked me I can't say was it you 1182 00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:51,300 and of course I got a the source team 1183 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:54,000 word let's just say that did it didn't 1184 00:54:59,660 --> 00:54:57,210 give me a frank yes or no but I I felt 1185 00:55:02,480 --> 00:54:59,670 like it was a very interesting question 1186 00:55:04,790 --> 00:55:02,490 and only one person has asked me that by 1187 00:55:07,940 --> 00:55:04,800 the way over the years so I take it as 1188 00:55:10,700 --> 00:55:07,950 more or less a tacit admission that that 1189 00:55:12,620 --> 00:55:10,710 person may well have been been the guy 1190 00:55:15,260 --> 00:55:12,630 behind the broadcast and I would say as 1191 00:55:17,930 --> 00:55:15,270 well that that person has worked at a 1192 00:55:20,359 --> 00:55:17,940 very high level we're talking about area 1193 00:55:23,269 --> 00:55:20,369 51 colleague of doctor 1194 00:55:25,579 --> 00:55:23,279 we're teller type of source okay I want 1195 00:55:28,430 --> 00:55:25,589 to get more into this voice in the 1196 00:55:30,499 --> 00:55:28,440 mechanism by which the information was 1197 00:55:33,380 --> 00:55:30,509 conveyed to you this happened many years 1198 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:33,390 ago so is there a practical use of this 1199 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:36,410 technique are we able to have a means of 1200 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:39,210 projecting voices in the inner ear now 1201 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:41,490 today is or is it something that's just 1202 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:44,970 been lingering cough underground for 20 1203 00:55:49,009 --> 00:55:46,890 you don't know no it's not even I 1204 00:55:52,660 --> 00:55:49,019 wouldn't say top secret all the way back 1205 00:55:55,039 --> 00:55:52,670 in the World War two period military 1206 00:55:57,049 --> 00:55:55,049 electronic electronic technicians 1207 00:56:00,650 --> 00:55:57,059 noticed that when they were working 1208 00:56:03,470 --> 00:56:00,660 around the first generation of radars 1209 00:56:05,569 --> 00:56:03,480 that they heard clicking sounds and 1210 00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:05,579 other sounds in their in their ears in 1211 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:06,329 their heads 1212 00:56:13,339 --> 00:56:10,130 so following on from that early on the 1213 00:56:15,859 --> 00:56:13,349 military industrial complex I began to 1214 00:56:18,739 --> 00:56:15,869 develop what is called artificial or 1215 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:18,749 electronic telepathy and there are 1216 00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:23,249 indeed patents for this for conveying 1217 00:56:28,220 --> 00:56:25,440 sound directly into the inner ear or 1218 00:56:32,359 --> 00:56:28,230 into the auditory cortex of the human 1219 00:56:35,569 --> 00:56:32,369 human mind human brain I do cite one of 1220 00:56:38,900 --> 00:56:35,579 these patents in in my books in my book 1221 00:56:41,539 --> 00:56:38,910 Kundalini Tales actually reproduced this 1222 00:56:44,839 --> 00:56:41,549 patent and so this technology has been 1223 00:56:47,720 --> 00:56:44,849 around for decades it's not magic it's 1224 00:56:51,019 --> 00:56:47,730 nuts-and-bolts electronic engineering 1225 00:56:53,210 --> 00:56:51,029 and it's what the technique used to do 1226 00:56:56,499 --> 00:56:53,220 it is pulsed microwaves they modulate 1227 00:56:58,970 --> 00:56:56,509 pulsed microwaves and you can beam 1228 00:57:02,450 --> 00:56:58,980 intelligible sound right into the human 1229 00:57:06,589 --> 00:57:02,460 mind so this is I cite a patent from the 1230 00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:06,599 late 1970s oh that's decades ago okay 1231 00:57:10,819 --> 00:57:08,160 but the question I have that is the 1232 00:57:13,579 --> 00:57:10,829 location how did they locate you how 1233 00:57:15,259 --> 00:57:13,589 precise can they locate somebody did 1234 00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:15,269 they have to first know where you live 1235 00:57:20,089 --> 00:57:17,609 know where your bedroom is what kind of 1236 00:57:22,430 --> 00:57:20,099 range does it have and how do you point 1237 00:57:24,349 --> 00:57:22,440 the beam to a specific person not 1238 00:57:25,940 --> 00:57:24,359 somebody else maybe you had somebody 1239 00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:25,950 else in the room would they here too 1240 00:57:31,790 --> 00:57:29,249 well I can't answer that but but the 1241 00:57:33,740 --> 00:57:31,800 electronic means for targeting 1242 00:57:35,870 --> 00:57:33,750 specific geographic coordinate on the 1243 00:57:38,570 --> 00:57:35,880 fair surface I mean down to the square 1244 00:57:42,650 --> 00:57:38,580 meter that technology again has existed 1245 00:57:46,220 --> 00:57:42,660 for decades the the NRO the CIA the 1246 00:57:49,070 --> 00:57:46,230 Defense Intelligence Agency the NSA they 1247 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:49,080 have had this technology for for a long 1248 00:57:56,750 --> 00:57:53,370 time so it's targeting even from orbit 1249 00:57:58,550 --> 00:57:56,760 any specific geographic coordinate with 1250 00:58:01,100 --> 00:57:58,560 great precision 1251 00:58:03,950 --> 00:58:01,110 they've been gene this has been done for 1252 00:58:06,260 --> 00:58:03,960 a long time Richard if someone was in 1253 00:58:08,210 --> 00:58:06,270 the room with you when they here in two 1254 00:58:11,900 --> 00:58:08,220 wars and only you because it's that 1255 00:58:14,990 --> 00:58:11,910 precise you know I don't know and you 1256 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:15,000 have to understand as well that neuro 1257 00:58:21,230 --> 00:58:18,450 tech neuroscience is it is well advanced 1258 00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:21,240 and I cite other other patents in my 1259 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:24,240 book Kundalini tara tales with mine 1260 00:58:30,110 --> 00:58:27,330 control applications it's technology for 1261 00:58:33,470 --> 00:58:30,120 identifying and targeting any given 1262 00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:33,480 individual individual is well advanced I 1263 00:58:41,090 --> 00:58:36,480 understand from from my research and 1264 00:58:44,690 --> 00:58:41,100 reading of the mind control literature 1265 00:58:47,900 --> 00:58:44,700 which is extensive that it is possible 1266 00:58:51,050 --> 00:58:47,910 in effect to dial in any given 1267 00:58:54,770 --> 00:58:51,060 individual because every individual has 1268 00:58:57,410 --> 00:58:54,780 a distinct brain signature if you will 1269 00:59:01,310 --> 00:58:57,420 so that once that is is known 1270 00:59:03,470 --> 00:59:01,320 individuals can be selected and targeted 1271 00:59:06,260 --> 00:59:03,480 electronically because every individual 1272 00:59:08,570 --> 00:59:06,270 has a unique brain signature 1273 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:08,580 okay now far back use this technology 1274 00:59:12,740 --> 00:59:10,170 electromagnet we're talking about the 1275 00:59:15,890 --> 00:59:12,750 1980s we're talking about the 50s and 1276 00:59:18,110 --> 00:59:15,900 40s how far back 70s at least in my 1277 00:59:22,900 --> 00:59:18,120 suspect I suspect it would go back to 1278 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:22,910 the 50/50 split on the way if in the 1279 00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:26,730 1970s these this this technology is 1280 00:59:32,780 --> 00:59:30,240 being publicly patented my suggest my 1281 00:59:34,820 --> 00:59:32,790 suspicion is it was developed much 1282 00:59:37,170 --> 00:59:34,830 earlier 1283 00:59:40,530 --> 00:59:37,180 secretly in military industrial 1284 00:59:42,810 --> 00:59:40,540 espionage complex of course we go back 1285 00:59:45,780 --> 00:59:42,820 to the legend of Richard shaver he was 1286 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:45,790 working as a welder in Pennsylvania I 1287 00:59:50,340 --> 00:59:48,850 guess in the late 30s early 40s and here 1288 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:50,350 are those voices of course then there's 1289 00:59:53,610 --> 00:59:51,850 the theory that Richard shaver was just 1290 00:59:55,770 --> 00:59:53,620 crazy and hearing voices people do hear 1291 00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:55,780 voices and it's not done by a third 1292 00:59:58,350 --> 00:59:57,730 party people hear voices for other 1293 01:00:00,000 --> 00:59:58,360 reasons 1294 01:00:03,180 --> 01:00:00,010 so we're separating that so is it 1295 01:00:04,650 --> 01:00:03,190 possible that any of the technology 1296 01:00:07,050 --> 01:00:04,660 we're talking about the rudimentary 1297 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:07,060 beginnings would have started that far 1298 01:00:13,410 --> 01:00:10,810 back yeah gene I can answer you know 1299 01:00:15,570 --> 01:00:13,420 Chris you answered go ahead yeah well 1300 01:00:17,870 --> 01:00:15,580 you know one of one of the more 1301 01:00:20,610 --> 01:00:17,880 enigmatic figures I think in the whole 1302 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:20,620 birth of the New Age movement for 1303 01:00:26,610 --> 01:00:23,770 instance and some early experimentation 1304 01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:26,620 that was done with with microwaves and 1305 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:28,960 also radio signals was done by and 1306 01:00:34,590 --> 01:00:31,570 Andrea Pugh hark back in the late 40s 1307 01:00:37,290 --> 01:00:34,600 and early 50s he was involved in several 1308 01:00:41,570 --> 01:00:37,300 programs there's documentation about 1309 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:41,580 this as well that involved for instance 1310 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:44,650 a tooth implant that was able to produce 1311 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:47,730 radio signals and auditory signals to 1312 01:00:52,530 --> 01:00:50,890 unwitting patients if you will and in 1313 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:52,540 other programs of course the work of 1314 01:00:57,420 --> 01:00:55,210 Delgado in the early 70s I mean the 1315 01:01:00,930 --> 01:00:57,430 famous film footage of him stopping a 1316 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:00,940 bull in mid charge in a bullring with an 1317 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:04,330 electronic device that was was tuned 1318 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:08,410 into the to the Bulls brain there has 1319 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:11,650 been as Richard points out very public 1320 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:13,810 work in this field it's not well known 1321 01:01:19,290 --> 01:01:15,250 but but it's there 1322 01:01:21,390 --> 01:01:19,300 and I think Richard I take your point to 1323 01:01:23,220 --> 01:01:21,400 heart in thinking if they're exposing 1324 01:01:25,830 --> 01:01:23,230 you know public knowledge of this 1325 01:01:27,990 --> 01:01:25,840 technology in the 70s you know they had 1326 01:01:30,570 --> 01:01:28,000 to have been working on it for one or 1327 01:01:33,030 --> 01:01:30,580 two or not more decades well of course 1328 01:01:35,070 --> 01:01:33,040 the next question I have here is alright 1329 01:01:37,470 --> 01:01:35,080 if you can communicate by voice and the 1330 01:01:40,140 --> 01:01:37,480 voice of the inner ear ok can you also 1331 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:40,150 engage in some sort of mind control make 1332 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:42,370 people think they're seeing things or 1333 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:44,050 hearing things that aren't really there 1334 01:01:49,070 --> 01:01:47,010 it's all projection why certainly 1335 01:01:51,740 --> 01:01:49,080 that's the case and and there is an 1336 01:01:53,390 --> 01:01:51,750 extensive mind control literature if 1337 01:01:56,390 --> 01:01:53,400 anyone wants to know about mind control 1338 01:01:58,940 --> 01:01:56,400 just do keyword searches online about 1339 01:02:00,710 --> 01:01:58,950 mind control and you will find all the 1340 01:02:04,220 --> 01:02:00,720 literature you care to read you can go 1341 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:04,230 to amazon.com and there are many books 1342 01:02:09,230 --> 01:02:06,210 on the mind control topic that have been 1343 01:02:12,170 --> 01:02:09,240 written that you can you can buy and 1344 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:12,180 inform yourself so there's logic cartage 1345 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:17,490 like electronic mind control yes I think 1346 01:02:20,780 --> 01:02:18,810 our listeners know word I'm gonna be 1347 01:02:23,330 --> 01:02:20,790 asking because of a topic it's really 1348 01:02:25,790 --> 01:02:23,340 been hot in the UFO and paranormal 1349 01:02:28,220 --> 01:02:25,800 fields in recent months and I'm gonna 1350 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:28,230 ask that question when we get back from 1351 01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:30,570 our brief break we have dr. 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iTunes we return dr. 1449 01:07:33,829 --> 01:07:31,809 Richard sounder joining us about 1450 01:07:36,630 --> 01:07:33,839 underground alien bases underground 1451 01:07:39,839 --> 01:07:36,640 military bases whatever they might be 1452 01:07:41,339 --> 01:07:39,849 wherever they do water under water we 1453 01:07:42,749 --> 01:07:41,349 haven't gotten to the water yet Chris 1454 01:07:45,269 --> 01:07:42,759 O'Brien's the co-host I'm gene 1455 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:45,279 steinberger and the para cast I'm gonna 1456 01:07:51,210 --> 01:07:47,650 ask that question mind-control Richard 1457 01:07:52,890 --> 01:07:51,220 okay so if the military wanted to make 1458 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:52,900 someone believe they had been abducted 1459 01:07:59,370 --> 01:07:56,410 by UFO aliens could they do that easily 1460 01:08:03,470 --> 01:07:59,380 is that what's being done I think some 1461 01:08:05,999 --> 01:08:03,480 of both you know I am I've read a lot of 1462 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:06,009 useful logic equal literature over the 1463 01:08:12,089 --> 01:08:09,690 years I do know a fair number of you 1464 01:08:14,130 --> 01:08:12,099 apologists and I follow the field I am 1465 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:14,140 NOT a professional ufologist I never 1466 01:08:19,110 --> 01:08:16,330 have been however I know a great deal 1467 01:08:20,879 --> 01:08:19,120 more about it than average person off 1468 01:08:25,729 --> 01:08:20,889 the street because I've gone out of my 1469 01:08:28,860 --> 01:08:25,739 way to learn I have seen UFOs myself and 1470 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:28,870 I I have to say that yes that's possible 1471 01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:33,690 I think that that there are a there is a 1472 01:08:41,849 --> 01:08:37,449 large suite of interrelated UFO 1473 01:08:44,910 --> 01:08:41,859 phenomena and the military industrial 1474 01:08:48,059 --> 01:08:44,920 espionage complex absolutely are 1475 01:08:51,740 --> 01:08:48,069 involved with UFOs in many ways up down 1476 01:08:56,860 --> 01:08:51,750 in sideways as well as with many UFOs 1477 01:08:59,480 --> 01:08:56,870 UFO recipients experiencers in abductees 1478 01:09:02,300 --> 01:08:59,490 Melinda Leslie has done some interesting 1479 01:09:05,539 --> 01:09:02,310 work in this in this regard interesting 1480 01:09:08,420 --> 01:09:05,549 in an important time as have many others 1481 01:09:12,650 --> 01:09:08,430 delayed karla turned and many others 1482 01:09:14,690 --> 01:09:12,660 dealt with abductee issue and the 1483 01:09:18,349 --> 01:09:14,700 mind-control aspect is absolutely part 1484 01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:18,359 of this it's clear that the military 1485 01:09:23,930 --> 01:09:21,450 industrial espionage complex employs 1486 01:09:26,780 --> 01:09:23,940 mind control and has for many years for 1487 01:09:29,599 --> 01:09:26,790 decades including within the realm of 1488 01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:29,609 so-called UFO abductions and your foe 1489 01:09:34,250 --> 01:09:32,400 sightings and yeah yes it's it's 1490 01:09:37,970 --> 01:09:34,260 perfectly plausible that they may staged 1491 01:09:42,170 --> 01:09:37,980 events for their own purposes but it's 1492 01:09:45,740 --> 01:09:42,180 also clear to me that so-called alien 1493 01:09:48,890 --> 01:09:45,750 and or extraterrestrial elements do the 1494 01:09:52,190 --> 01:09:48,900 same thing many many people have 1495 01:09:54,230 --> 01:09:52,200 interacted with UFOs have seen them who 1496 01:09:59,090 --> 01:09:54,240 have been on them who have been abducted 1497 01:10:01,280 --> 01:09:59,100 by UFO knots or beings in UFOs have 1498 01:10:04,630 --> 01:10:01,290 reported experiences that that 1499 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:04,640 absolutely smack of mind control and or 1500 01:10:10,970 --> 01:10:07,530 manipulation of human thought process 1501 01:10:15,140 --> 01:10:10,980 and perception so this the UFO field is 1502 01:10:16,610 --> 01:10:15,150 rife with mind control of all kinds and 1503 01:10:18,590 --> 01:10:16,620 you could even brought it broaden the 1504 01:10:23,630 --> 01:10:18,600 question to ask whether this whole 1505 01:10:25,250 --> 01:10:23,640 planet is just a vast mind you know what 1506 01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:25,260 well we all want to use the words 1507 01:10:29,930 --> 01:10:27,330 commercial radio but we understand the 1508 01:10:34,130 --> 01:10:29,940 connection okay so it's kind of be like 1509 01:10:36,820 --> 01:10:34,140 the matrix scenario then yeah I think I 1510 01:10:40,580 --> 01:10:36,830 think you know when when the ancient 1511 01:10:42,590 --> 01:10:40,590 sages said no you yourself people think 1512 01:10:46,010 --> 01:10:42,600 to themselves I think in this day and 1513 01:10:48,470 --> 01:10:46,020 age oh yeah well I know myself will let 1514 01:10:51,290 --> 01:10:48,480 me assure you my friends it ain't that 1515 01:10:54,410 --> 01:10:51,300 easy to really know yourself there's a 1516 01:10:57,230 --> 01:10:54,420 lifetime of really hard work and serious 1517 01:10:59,480 --> 01:10:57,240 meditation introspection and the deeper 1518 01:11:02,390 --> 01:10:59,490 you go into yourself the more you 1519 01:11:04,900 --> 01:11:02,400 realize there is to know and the harder 1520 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:04,910 it is to know what there is to know 1521 01:11:09,790 --> 01:11:06,610 about the world but most especially 1522 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:09,800 about yourself and to know your own mind 1523 01:11:17,830 --> 01:11:14,690 is a very difficult task very few people 1524 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:17,840 know their self themselves okay let's 1525 01:11:23,500 --> 01:11:20,210 try to know about motivations here okay 1526 01:11:25,660 --> 01:11:23,510 if there are mind-control experiments 1527 01:11:27,580 --> 01:11:25,670 being performed on people around the 1528 01:11:30,670 --> 01:11:27,590 world making them believe they see UFOs 1529 01:11:33,930 --> 01:11:30,680 or they're being abducted by aliens to 1530 01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:33,940 what purpose - mighty the waters 1531 01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:37,760 understand I've I take it for a given 1532 01:11:43,210 --> 01:11:40,400 that there is the universe in this 1533 01:11:45,190 --> 01:11:43,220 galaxy are teeming with life I mean NASA 1534 01:11:47,110 --> 01:11:45,200 admitted publicly what two or three 1535 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:47,120 weeks ago that there's something like 1536 01:11:52,630 --> 01:11:49,610 fifty billion planets according to their 1537 01:11:55,170 --> 01:11:52,640 reckoning in this and this galaxy alone 1538 01:12:00,550 --> 01:11:55,180 I would think it as time goes forward 1539 01:12:03,100 --> 01:12:00,560 that they will up that figure far beyond 1540 01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:03,110 fifty billion but fifty billion already 1541 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:05,840 is a very large number and I would I 1542 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:08,210 would hazard to guess that a very large 1543 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:10,850 number of those planets would have life 1544 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:13,370 forms on them and a certain percentage 1545 01:12:17,260 --> 01:12:15,410 are likely to have intelligent life 1546 01:12:19,690 --> 01:12:17,270 forms in other words I'm saying we 1547 01:12:21,670 --> 01:12:19,700 almost certainly are not alone in the 1548 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:21,680 universe never had been and we probably 1549 01:12:26,530 --> 01:12:23,930 are not even alone in our own galactic 1550 01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:26,540 neighborhood I will go further and say 1551 01:12:31,750 --> 01:12:29,090 that almost certainly in fact I think 1552 01:12:34,450 --> 01:12:31,760 it's it is certain that a certain 1553 01:12:38,230 --> 01:12:34,460 percentage of those life forms will be a 1554 01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:38,240 lot more intelligent than us and further 1555 01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:39,770 advanced with their science their 1556 01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:43,360 technology and their engineering and 1557 01:12:50,170 --> 01:12:47,330 their their consciousness will be more 1558 01:12:52,930 --> 01:12:50,180 highly elevated than ours and when they 1559 01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:52,940 come here I guarantee you that they will 1560 01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:55,760 appear very strange to us and that when 1561 01:13:02,170 --> 01:12:58,130 we interact with them when we get in the 1562 01:13:05,170 --> 01:13:02,180 in the consciousness field of beings 1563 01:13:07,870 --> 01:13:05,180 that are are much more highly advanced 1564 01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:07,880 than us it is almost certain that it 1565 01:13:13,180 --> 01:13:10,130 will affect our consciousness in all 1566 01:13:15,180 --> 01:13:13,190 kinds of ways or ways that we will 1567 01:13:18,340 --> 01:13:15,190 perceive as a bizarre 1568 01:13:20,440 --> 01:13:18,350 mind-bending ways if you will and that 1569 01:13:23,530 --> 01:13:20,450 that is just the beginning of it 1570 01:13:26,740 --> 01:13:23,540 so in when we go when we're in the 1571 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:26,750 presence of other energy fields powerful 1572 01:13:31,570 --> 01:13:29,050 energy fields including other powerful 1573 01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:31,580 mental fields it is absolutely going to 1574 01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:34,490 affect our consciousness and I think the 1575 01:13:39,310 --> 01:13:36,530 military starting all the way back in 1576 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:39,320 the Roswell days understood that when 1577 01:13:45,130 --> 01:13:42,410 when when we earthbound humans with 1578 01:13:47,140 --> 01:13:45,140 their limited understanding are around 1579 01:13:49,180 --> 01:13:47,150 beings with a more highly advanced 1580 01:13:51,370 --> 01:13:49,190 advanced mental field more highly 1581 01:13:54,190 --> 01:13:51,380 advanced consciousness and when we were 1582 01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:54,200 around their technology which by the way 1583 01:13:59,140 --> 01:13:56,810 may itself be self aware that it is 1584 01:14:00,880 --> 01:13:59,150 going to affect our awareness in all 1585 01:14:03,820 --> 01:14:00,890 kinds of ways and I think they 1586 01:14:05,590 --> 01:14:03,830 understood that early on and determine I 1587 01:14:07,480 --> 01:14:05,600 think one of the things they started 1588 01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:07,490 back engineering from the very beginning 1589 01:14:12,850 --> 01:14:10,250 was mind control technology because they 1590 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:12,860 stumbled across it at Roswell and have 1591 01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:14,330 probably stumbled across it 1592 01:14:22,750 --> 01:14:20,210 multiple times since ok you raise the 1593 01:14:25,090 --> 01:14:22,760 roswell specter again ok so you believe 1594 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:25,100 roswell involved the crash of a 1595 01:14:30,910 --> 01:14:28,970 spaceship that bodies were I'm not 1596 01:14:32,950 --> 01:14:30,920 saying it was a spaceship I'm not saying 1597 01:14:36,130 --> 01:14:32,960 it was a spaceship I'm saying something 1598 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:36,140 very strange happened at Roswell and the 1599 01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:38,210 United States military has been lying 1600 01:14:43,900 --> 01:14:41,450 about what happened ever since 1947 1601 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:43,910 right down to the present day so what do 1602 01:14:49,090 --> 01:14:45,890 you think has to mind if it's not an ET 1603 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:49,100 what was it I didn't say it wasn't ET I 1604 01:14:54,990 --> 01:14:52,010 said I said something really strange 1605 01:14:58,630 --> 01:14:55,000 happened and I wouldn't categorize it as 1606 01:15:00,490 --> 01:14:58,640 ET or not ET I think it was so strange 1607 01:15:03,430 --> 01:15:00,500 that to the present day 1608 01:15:06,010 --> 01:15:03,440 the United States military cannot and 1609 01:15:07,900 --> 01:15:06,020 will not speak publicly and frankly 1610 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:07,910 about what happened they have 1611 01:15:13,390 --> 01:15:09,850 compartmentalized all of that and very 1612 01:15:15,550 --> 01:15:13,400 secret secretive black project starting 1613 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:15,560 that day and continuing to the present 1614 01:15:20,740 --> 01:15:18,650 day exactly what happened I can't say 1615 01:15:22,100 --> 01:15:20,750 other than that it was very highly 1616 01:15:24,260 --> 01:15:22,110 strange 1617 01:15:27,410 --> 01:15:24,270 and whatever it was the military has 1618 01:15:29,330 --> 01:15:27,420 been back engineering and spinning ever 1619 01:15:31,399 --> 01:15:29,340 since all right well I want to pursue 1620 01:15:34,250 --> 01:15:31,409 this how you know this and we'll get 1621 01:15:36,260 --> 01:15:34,260 into the mechanisms under which you 1622 01:15:36,830 --> 01:15:36,270 reach these theories in a moment well 1623 01:15:39,740 --> 01:15:36,840 it's clear 1624 01:15:41,510 --> 01:15:39,750 Richard Sauter PhD joining us I'm Jean 1625 01:15:51,169 --> 01:15:41,520 Steinberg the co-host is Chris O'Brien 1626 01:15:53,359 --> 01:15:51,179 you're in the very cast ray Perkins a 1627 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Richard sounder 1734 01:20:14,709 --> 01:20:12,070 we're talking about mind control 1735 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:14,719 underground alien bases underground 1736 01:20:19,930 --> 01:20:17,449 military bases and lots lots more under 1737 01:20:22,270 --> 01:20:19,940 the sea everywhere else um gene 1738 01:20:23,950 --> 01:20:22,280 Steinberg Chris O'Brien's the co-host 1739 01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:23,960 you're in the para cast I have to tell 1740 01:20:27,399 --> 01:20:25,250 you though if it's under the sea I don't 1741 01:20:29,140 --> 01:20:27,409 want to go there water and I don't work 1742 01:20:31,810 --> 01:20:29,150 very well except I drink water that's 1743 01:20:33,939 --> 01:20:31,820 fine but I don't like the other kind in 1744 01:20:36,819 --> 01:20:33,949 the ocean you know after watching the 1745 01:20:40,180 --> 01:20:36,829 movie Titanic I gave up on travelling on 1746 01:20:42,910 --> 01:20:40,190 boats so that was it for me okay gene 1747 01:20:51,970 --> 01:20:42,920 will give you some water wings okay I'll 1748 01:20:53,109 --> 01:20:51,980 go for that I could use something need 1749 01:20:54,790 --> 01:20:53,119 all the help I can get 1750 01:20:56,819 --> 01:20:54,800 okay Richard let's just look at this 1751 01:20:59,410 --> 01:20:56,829 further you have some very interesting 1752 01:21:02,470 --> 01:20:59,420 thought processes here about what 1753 01:21:05,229 --> 01:21:02,480 happened but Roswell which is pretty 1754 01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:05,239 wild itself the crash of the alien 1755 01:21:10,540 --> 01:21:07,130 spacecraft something more something 1756 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:10,550 unusual now that goes against the other 1757 01:21:15,069 --> 01:21:13,010 theories we've heard of Roswell why do 1758 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:15,079 you reach that conclusion where's the 1759 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:16,610 evidence that points you in the 1760 01:21:21,399 --> 01:21:19,010 direction of something really really 1761 01:21:22,660 --> 01:21:21,409 weird well first of all let's just say 1762 01:21:24,939 --> 01:21:22,670 that there's no question something 1763 01:21:28,209 --> 01:21:24,949 happened at Roswell that the military is 1764 01:21:31,410 --> 01:21:28,219 lying about and has been for what more 1765 01:21:33,910 --> 01:21:31,420 than half a century we have books but by 1766 01:21:36,819 --> 01:21:33,920 multiple researchers philip corso for 1767 01:21:40,300 --> 01:21:36,829 example or a vocal Roswell and then you 1768 01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:40,310 have many other people who've written on 1769 01:21:44,950 --> 01:21:41,210 on Roswell 1770 01:21:49,209 --> 01:21:46,930 and a whole slew of other people there's 1771 01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:49,219 just no question and a lot of this 1772 01:21:54,190 --> 01:21:51,010 research has been very good by the way 1773 01:21:57,729 --> 01:21:54,200 and and and thoroughgoing there's no 1774 01:22:00,400 --> 01:21:57,739 question that a major event a very high 1775 01:22:02,950 --> 01:22:00,410 strangeness happened at Roswell and it's 1776 01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:02,960 been covered up ever since why do I say 1777 01:22:09,790 --> 01:22:06,800 that it was of a very highly strange 1778 01:22:12,430 --> 01:22:09,800 nature well simply because of so many 1779 01:22:15,700 --> 01:22:12,440 conversations I've had with researchers 1780 01:22:17,950 --> 01:22:15,710 over the years and my own sir myzel of 1781 01:22:20,229 --> 01:22:17,960 what occurred if if indeed it was not 1782 01:22:22,660 --> 01:22:20,239 very highly strange and then there's no 1783 01:22:24,970 --> 01:22:22,670 reason to keep it so quiet and cover it 1784 01:22:27,490 --> 01:22:24,980 up well yeah but if it's a spaceship 1785 01:22:28,750 --> 01:22:27,500 Richard that's pretty strange so you're 1786 01:22:32,050 --> 01:22:28,760 talking about something more elaborate 1787 01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:32,060 here it's not just the crash it's a more 1788 01:22:38,050 --> 01:22:34,489 extravagant event so maybe you can 1789 01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:38,060 explain what this is yes let me well let 1790 01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:40,489 me tell you I I have I have many 1791 01:22:45,700 --> 01:22:43,250 contacts with researchers in the United 1792 01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:45,710 States and also researchers out of the 1793 01:22:49,810 --> 01:22:48,290 United States and and I'll just say that 1794 01:22:51,940 --> 01:22:49,820 some of the things that have been 1795 01:22:54,459 --> 01:22:51,950 associated with Roswell have not been 1796 01:22:57,250 --> 01:22:54,469 brought forth publicly and may never be 1797 01:23:01,209 --> 01:22:57,260 for a variety of reasons including some 1798 01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:01,219 people being concerned about their their 1799 01:23:04,090 --> 01:23:02,930 personal well-being let's put it that 1800 01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:04,100 way 1801 01:23:11,620 --> 01:23:07,370 but I am satisfied and I can't say with 1802 01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:11,630 any specificity that would that would 1803 01:23:18,550 --> 01:23:16,239 that would conclusively proved to the 1804 01:23:21,570 --> 01:23:18,560 someone with a casual interest in 1805 01:23:24,580 --> 01:23:21,580 ufology that something really strange 1806 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:24,590 occurred at Roswell other than to say 1807 01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:26,570 that I have spoken with enough people 1808 01:23:30,370 --> 01:23:28,130 all right all right what speaking in 1809 01:23:32,890 --> 01:23:30,380 generalities research not what is the 1810 01:23:35,050 --> 01:23:32,900 strange event and it's not a Richard 1811 01:23:37,810 --> 01:23:35,060 what is the event among other things it 1812 01:23:40,270 --> 01:23:37,820 was a crash but it was more than that it 1813 01:23:44,689 --> 01:23:40,280 was the recovery of bodies and the 1814 01:23:52,649 --> 01:23:47,790 so for beyonders i will say not beyond 1815 01:23:55,919 --> 01:23:52,659 but so far different from what the 1816 01:23:59,370 --> 01:23:55,929 terrestrial human society had in the 1817 01:24:02,040 --> 01:23:59,380 late 1940s and even today in in our 1818 01:24:04,530 --> 01:24:02,050 everyday realm let's put it that way so 1819 01:24:07,950 --> 01:24:04,540 far different from that that it was 1820 01:24:08,339 --> 01:24:07,960 sequestered in deep sixed to the present 1821 01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:08,349 day 1822 01:24:15,030 --> 01:24:12,130 because what you face with a lot of this 1823 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:15,040 technology is an alteration of the 1824 01:24:21,359 --> 01:24:19,210 mental field and also the time-space 1825 01:24:24,300 --> 01:24:21,369 continuum in other words you're not 1826 01:24:28,290 --> 01:24:24,310 talking you're not talking so much of a 1827 01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:28,300 spaceship as you are talking of more or 1828 01:24:38,250 --> 01:24:35,280 less a a put it this way a dimensional 1829 01:24:41,250 --> 01:24:38,260 manipulation technology you gotta 1830 01:24:43,379 --> 01:24:41,260 explain this well one of the things I 1831 01:24:45,410 --> 01:24:43,389 ran across when I was doing my 1832 01:24:48,990 --> 01:24:45,420 underground base's technology 1833 01:24:50,669 --> 01:24:49,000 underground bases research was a lot of 1834 01:24:53,310 --> 01:24:50,679 other technical documentation because I 1835 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:53,320 combed through the military and 1836 01:24:58,890 --> 01:24:55,690 technical documentation with a 1837 01:25:02,100 --> 01:24:58,900 fine-tooth comb going all the way back 1838 01:25:06,060 --> 01:25:02,110 to the World War 2 era back into the 1839 01:25:06,950 --> 01:25:06,070 1940s and coming forward to the present 1840 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:06,960 day 1841 01:25:14,129 --> 01:25:10,210 what I noticed was there was a lot of 1842 01:25:19,020 --> 01:25:14,139 work done starting basically in the late 1843 01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:19,030 40s I II had at the Roswell period going 1844 01:25:26,729 --> 01:25:23,650 up into the 1950s and early 60s having 1845 01:25:31,830 --> 01:25:26,739 to do with gravity and electric 1846 01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:31,840 ravillious and as relates to propulsion 1847 01:25:37,979 --> 01:25:35,650 systems and I noticed that starting 1848 01:25:41,220 --> 01:25:37,989 there was a real flurry of that in the 1849 01:25:43,260 --> 01:25:41,230 late 40s and into the mid 50s starting 1850 01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:43,270 in the mid 50's it started to peter out 1851 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:44,650 and by the time he got up into the early 1852 01:25:51,390 --> 01:25:48,610 60s it virtually went away so you had 1853 01:25:53,149 --> 01:25:51,400 about a 10-year period where there was 1854 01:25:55,220 --> 01:25:53,159 just a lot of work on this 1855 01:25:59,479 --> 01:25:55,230 and it came out into the technical 1856 01:26:03,680 --> 01:25:59,489 literature and then it all went away my 1857 01:26:05,899 --> 01:26:03,690 surmise was and and ever and then and 1858 01:26:10,310 --> 01:26:05,909 continues to be and I've discussed this 1859 01:26:15,050 --> 01:26:10,320 with other researchers and I surmised an 1860 01:26:17,330 --> 01:26:15,060 that breakthroughs were made in gravity 1861 01:26:21,890 --> 01:26:17,340 Research and electrogravitic research 1862 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:21,900 and then it was operationalized 1863 01:26:33,290 --> 01:26:26,730 and taking deep black and to this day we 1864 01:26:35,450 --> 01:26:33,300 don't see that that technology but we 1865 01:26:38,209 --> 01:26:35,460 have all this advanced technology and 1866 01:26:39,740 --> 01:26:38,219 we're fighting these war with Elysee and 1867 01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:39,750 all that why don't we see more 1868 01:26:46,129 --> 01:26:42,690 manifestations of it because understand 1869 01:26:47,689 --> 01:26:46,139 gene war is a business my man it ain't 1870 01:26:48,530 --> 01:26:47,699 about losing and winning it's about 1871 01:26:51,410 --> 01:26:48,540 making money 1872 01:26:53,959 --> 01:26:51,420 and the people who who run these wars 1873 01:26:56,629 --> 01:26:53,969 don't give a rat's ass about who wins 1874 01:26:59,810 --> 01:26:56,639 and who loses they make money no matter 1875 01:27:02,720 --> 01:26:59,820 what happens they only care about having 1876 01:27:05,090 --> 01:27:02,730 the wars you I understand so it ain't 1877 01:27:05,390 --> 01:27:05,100 about winning and losing about none of 1878 01:27:11,750 --> 01:27:05,400 that 1879 01:27:15,290 --> 01:27:11,760 who run off to kill and be killed war is 1880 01:27:17,390 --> 01:27:15,300 a business and the discussion now as far 1881 01:27:19,669 --> 01:27:17,400 as why don't you see this technology use 1882 01:27:24,430 --> 01:27:19,679 there because it's reserved for more 1883 01:27:27,979 --> 01:27:24,440 important purposes for example if if 1884 01:27:29,870 --> 01:27:27,989 5,000 FFA teens get shot down in a war 1885 01:27:32,209 --> 01:27:29,880 so much the better then the 1886 01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:32,219 military-industrial complex needs to 1887 01:27:38,149 --> 01:27:35,010 make 5,000 more of them so the good 1888 01:27:40,700 --> 01:27:38,159 stuff ain't wasted in wartime it's used 1889 01:27:44,270 --> 01:27:40,710 for other things and it's not it's not 1890 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:44,280 just delivered over to your average 22 1891 01:27:51,140 --> 01:27:47,010 year old flyboy or flagger what other 1892 01:27:53,570 --> 01:27:51,150 things for example well I don't work in 1893 01:27:56,649 --> 01:27:53,580 that realm I can only say that clearly 1894 01:27:59,479 --> 01:27:56,659 another generation or two or three of 1895 01:28:00,860 --> 01:27:59,489 technology undeveloped what's real clear 1896 01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:00,870 to me 1897 01:28:08,020 --> 01:28:05,090 my research is that there are many 1898 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:08,030 secret underground and underwater 1899 01:28:12,650 --> 01:28:10,650 undersea bases and when I say undersea I 1900 01:28:15,230 --> 01:28:12,660 don't mean in the water I mean in the 1901 01:28:18,410 --> 01:28:15,240 bedrock beneath the ocean floor 1902 01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:18,420 thousands of feet down in the bedrock in 1903 01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:21,120 other words to go 2,000 10,000 feet 1904 01:28:26,030 --> 01:28:23,850 underwater and then another 5,000 feet 1905 01:28:30,110 --> 01:28:26,040 down in the bedrock that's what I mean 1906 01:28:33,590 --> 01:28:30,120 when I say undersea but what's what's 1907 01:28:35,690 --> 01:28:33,600 real clear from my research is that 1908 01:28:38,420 --> 01:28:35,700 there are trillions of dollars off 1909 01:28:40,970 --> 01:28:38,430 budget in the black world trillions 1910 01:28:43,580 --> 01:28:40,980 multiple trillions that are unaccounted 1911 01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:43,590 for and what I can say is that the money 1912 01:28:48,620 --> 01:28:46,050 is there and it has been used but 1913 01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:48,630 because I don't live and work in that 1914 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:50,850 black world and I don't have any 1915 01:28:56,810 --> 01:28:54,090 security clearances I am on the outside 1916 01:28:59,150 --> 01:28:56,820 looking in with my nose pressed up 1917 01:29:02,510 --> 01:28:59,160 against the black world's windowpane so 1918 01:29:05,300 --> 01:29:02,520 to speak so I have documented this other 1919 01:29:07,850 --> 01:29:05,310 people have let Katherine Oh Katherine 1920 01:29:09,470 --> 01:29:07,860 Austen Church and others okay well 1921 01:29:12,350 --> 01:29:09,480 doctor many more of it we're looking to 1922 01:29:14,030 --> 01:29:12,360 more of it very shortly first off if you 1923 01:29:15,950 --> 01:29:14,040 have a question or a comment to make 1924 01:29:18,290 --> 01:29:15,960 about the power cast we want to hear 1925 01:29:20,870 --> 01:29:18,300 from you just send your messages to new 1926 01:29:23,780 --> 01:29:20,880 is at the power cast com that's news 1927 01:29:26,090 --> 01:29:23,790 that the power cast calm we read every 1928 01:29:29,330 --> 01:29:26,100 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01:33:55,849 --> 01:33:55,300 something you more important search who 2027 01:33:59,979 --> 01:33:55,859 knows 2028 01:34:03,529 --> 01:33:59,989 we are the GCM radio network 2029 01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:03,539 hi this is Don Ecker and you are tuned 2030 01:34:08,810 --> 01:34:06,449 in to the para cast let me tell you what 2031 01:34:12,319 --> 01:34:08,820 you're gonna hear stuff here that you 2032 01:34:16,069 --> 01:34:12,329 probably won't hear anywhere else hear 2033 01:34:18,529 --> 01:34:16,079 that folks I know you've heard some 2034 01:34:20,270 --> 01:34:18,539 strange background noise buzzing or 2035 01:34:22,250 --> 01:34:20,280 mosquito like or something like that 2036 01:34:24,500 --> 01:34:22,260 that appears to be something that we 2037 01:34:26,329 --> 01:34:24,510 encountered during our connection with 2038 01:34:29,509 --> 01:34:26,339 dr. sounder what can I tell you 2039 01:34:32,299 --> 01:34:29,519 underground base's mind control advanced 2040 01:34:34,310 --> 01:34:32,309 weaponry all sorts of stuff that we're 2041 01:34:35,959 --> 01:34:34,320 talking about with Richard Sauter the 2042 01:34:38,119 --> 01:34:35,969 co-host is Chris O'Brien I'm gene 2043 01:34:41,089 --> 01:34:38,129 Steinberg you're in the power cast and 2044 01:34:42,619 --> 01:34:41,099 now Chris I know that you're gonna want 2045 01:34:44,089 --> 01:34:42,629 to pick up on some of the things I 2046 01:34:46,579 --> 01:34:44,099 raised here a lot of the questions I 2047 01:34:49,179 --> 01:34:46,589 raised and the possibilities and take it 2048 01:34:52,009 --> 01:34:49,189 further Chris well you know having known 2049 01:34:54,979 --> 01:34:52,019 Richard for a quite a number of years 2050 01:34:56,959 --> 01:34:54,989 and and you know I'm again I can't say 2051 01:35:01,369 --> 01:34:56,969 enough about the quality of your 2052 01:35:04,369 --> 01:35:01,379 research when Richard says he has a an 2053 01:35:08,239 --> 01:35:04,379 inkling or he suspects something based 2054 01:35:10,429 --> 01:35:08,249 on his research I definitely my ears you 2055 01:35:12,679 --> 01:35:10,439 know kind of perk up and take notice and 2056 01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:12,689 you know we haven't talked with you in a 2057 01:35:16,429 --> 01:35:14,489 number of years and and I have been 2058 01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:16,439 keeping up with your work peripherally 2059 01:35:22,009 --> 01:35:20,489 but I do know that you have been you 2060 01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:22,019 know doggedly through the years you've 2061 01:35:26,029 --> 01:35:23,489 been just accumulating more and more 2062 01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:26,039 research concerning these subjects and 2063 01:35:32,569 --> 01:35:28,530 one of the things that really strikes me 2064 01:35:36,109 --> 01:35:32,579 is your suspicion that there's some sort 2065 01:35:38,299 --> 01:35:36,119 of dimensional or I think you're you're 2066 01:35:40,129 --> 01:35:38,309 trying to put a label on something 2067 01:35:42,109 --> 01:35:40,139 that's very difficult I think for the 2068 01:35:44,779 --> 01:35:42,119 average person to understand or even 2069 01:35:48,020 --> 01:35:44,789 comprehend but but you seem to be 2070 01:35:50,359 --> 01:35:48,030 hinting at something that that goes 2071 01:35:53,329 --> 01:35:50,369 beyond your your standard nuts-and-bolts 2072 01:35:55,879 --> 01:35:53,339 theory of a UFO or an alien and we're 2073 01:35:57,589 --> 01:35:55,889 talking in the realm of sort of an 2074 01:36:01,250 --> 01:35:57,599 interactive almost maybe some sort of 2075 01:36:05,419 --> 01:36:01,260 biological interface on some sort of 2076 01:36:06,310 --> 01:36:05,429 mind level it's something that that yes 2077 01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:06,320 yes 2078 01:36:11,530 --> 01:36:07,970 I understand I'm not a professional 2079 01:36:13,660 --> 01:36:11,540 ufologist but I have read read a great 2080 01:36:16,710 --> 01:36:13,670 deal of the useful article literature 2081 01:36:19,570 --> 01:36:16,720 and I do know a number of cutting-edge 2082 01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:19,580 well-known ufologist and have spoken 2083 01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:22,610 with them extensively off record in in 2084 01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:25,610 just numerous conversations over period 2085 01:36:30,790 --> 01:36:28,970 of now two into three decades so I know 2086 01:36:32,950 --> 01:36:30,800 a great deal more about this an average 2087 01:36:35,650 --> 01:36:32,960 person as well as having had my own 2088 01:36:37,870 --> 01:36:35,660 experiences with UFOs which I don't 2089 01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:37,880 usually talk much about but I have seen 2090 01:36:44,170 --> 01:36:40,730 many UFOs and I've had other experiences 2091 01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:44,180 as well now it's true that when you read 2092 01:36:51,550 --> 01:36:48,650 a lot of beautiful literature's I have 2093 01:36:54,270 --> 01:36:51,560 books and articles over a period of 2094 01:36:58,060 --> 01:36:54,280 years one thing stands out and that is 2095 01:37:00,070 --> 01:36:58,070 quite a number of people who have had 2096 01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:00,080 experience with UFOs have seen them have 2097 01:37:04,510 --> 01:37:01,970 been close to them or have been in them 2098 01:37:07,570 --> 01:37:04,520 have remarked that it seems as if the 2099 01:37:09,940 --> 01:37:07,580 UFOs themselves are alive and not just 2100 01:37:13,570 --> 01:37:09,950 alive but self-aware and not just 2101 01:37:16,810 --> 01:37:13,580 self-aware but extremely so in that the 2102 01:37:19,510 --> 01:37:16,820 UFOs themselves seem to be self 2103 01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:19,520 intelligent self intelligent and highly 2104 01:37:28,750 --> 01:37:23,650 intelligent highly conscious self-aware 2105 01:37:30,940 --> 01:37:28,760 living entities not just Jacques Jacques 2106 01:37:34,480 --> 01:37:30,950 Vallee and his novel fast Walker's as 2107 01:37:37,690 --> 01:37:34,490 that is a interesting point of note that 2108 01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:37,700 the the scientist who was studying a 2109 01:37:41,860 --> 01:37:40,370 captured desk or recovered disks were 2110 01:37:46,060 --> 01:37:41,870 convinced that this thing was a 2111 01:37:48,220 --> 01:37:46,070 biological thinking the reacting sort of 2112 01:37:50,250 --> 01:37:48,230 entity and that it was some sort of 2113 01:37:53,470 --> 01:37:50,260 living techno 2114 01:37:58,050 --> 01:37:53,480 one of the things that has been observed 2115 01:38:01,360 --> 01:37:58,060 a number of times is that it seems that 2116 01:38:06,010 --> 01:38:01,370 good number of these UFOs are not so 2117 01:38:10,270 --> 01:38:06,020 much fabricated as grown if you will and 2118 01:38:12,810 --> 01:38:10,280 it seems that one of the things that was 2119 01:38:14,219 --> 01:38:12,820 learned from Roswell when when they're 2120 01:38:22,229 --> 01:38:14,229 so 2121 01:38:25,469 --> 01:38:22,239 examined was that yes it was made of 2122 01:38:27,270 --> 01:38:25,479 matter as we understand matter and yes 2123 01:38:30,750 --> 01:38:27,280 it had certain metals and other 2124 01:38:33,149 --> 01:38:30,760 materials that were present in the craft 2125 01:38:35,790 --> 01:38:33,159 so-called craft whatever it was whatever 2126 01:38:40,129 --> 01:38:35,800 its nature was but that it wasn't not 2127 01:38:42,930 --> 01:38:40,139 fabricated using any process known to 2128 01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:42,940 terrestrial science technology and 2129 01:38:50,250 --> 01:38:45,130 engineering at that time and even today 2130 01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:50,260 in the open world let's say not in the 2131 01:38:55,500 --> 01:38:52,690 black world but in an open world that 2132 01:38:58,140 --> 01:38:55,510 that it seemed that the craft was was 2133 01:39:02,759 --> 01:38:58,150 grown and yet it seemed to be metallic 2134 01:39:06,959 --> 01:39:02,769 it seemed to be as if the it seemed that 2135 01:39:09,540 --> 01:39:06,969 there were were an analog of what we 2136 01:39:12,469 --> 01:39:09,550 would know has micro electronic 2137 01:39:15,719 --> 01:39:12,479 circuitry however it had not been 2138 01:39:17,509 --> 01:39:15,729 fabricated but rather grown it was an 2139 01:39:20,430 --> 01:39:17,519 integral part of the craft and 2140 01:39:22,469 --> 01:39:20,440 interfaced seamlessly with the beings 2141 01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:22,479 that were in the craft so to speak such 2142 01:39:28,939 --> 01:39:26,170 that the beings the craft the circuitry 2143 01:39:32,939 --> 01:39:28,949 all were intelligent and worked together 2144 01:39:36,290 --> 01:39:32,949 as almost as symbiotic organisms as if 2145 01:39:39,629 --> 01:39:36,300 the craft and the beings interfaced 2146 01:39:43,890 --> 01:39:39,639 mentally and that was only the beginning 2147 01:39:47,910 --> 01:39:43,900 of the strangeness once you really dig 2148 01:39:51,500 --> 01:39:47,920 into the UFO led literature to deep 2149 01:39:54,719 --> 01:39:51,510 level you will find multiple examples of 2150 01:39:58,399 --> 01:39:54,729 people experience experiencing what can 2151 01:40:02,330 --> 01:39:58,409 only be described as as warps in time 2152 01:40:06,359 --> 01:40:02,340 and it seems that at least some of these 2153 01:40:08,729 --> 01:40:06,369 craft well we'll call them craft for one 2154 01:40:12,419 --> 01:40:08,739 of them better word devices but even 2155 01:40:15,799 --> 01:40:12,429 that doesn't do them justice that at 2156 01:40:19,859 --> 01:40:15,809 least some of these UFOs but then again 2157 01:40:22,630 --> 01:40:19,869 they don't always fly in a conventional 2158 01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:22,640 sense so what are they 2159 01:40:25,930 --> 01:40:23,810 you know at the end of the day what are 2160 01:40:28,090 --> 01:40:25,940 they they're mysterious let's leave it 2161 01:40:30,729 --> 01:40:28,100 at that they come and they go they pop 2162 01:40:33,340 --> 01:40:30,739 in and they pop out but but more than 2163 01:40:36,490 --> 01:40:33,350 one person has experienced what can only 2164 01:40:38,860 --> 01:40:36,500 be described as a time warp or as a 2165 01:40:40,930 --> 01:40:38,870 distortion in the time-space continuum 2166 01:40:43,709 --> 01:40:40,940 now getting around to what I was saying 2167 01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:43,719 earlier with the gravity and 2168 01:40:49,030 --> 01:40:46,250 electrolytic research that absolutely 2169 01:40:51,250 --> 01:40:49,040 was covered up but carried out and now 2170 01:40:53,650 --> 01:40:51,260 it seems it's been covered up by the 2171 01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:53,660 military industrial espionage complex 2172 01:40:58,300 --> 01:40:56,210 back and let's say from the late 40s 2173 01:41:01,600 --> 01:40:58,310 through the through the early 60s and 2174 01:41:03,580 --> 01:41:01,610 came to crescendo in the mid 1950s or 2175 01:41:06,070 --> 01:41:03,590 there abouts and then virtually went 2176 01:41:08,500 --> 01:41:06,080 away and there's almost no public 2177 01:41:10,570 --> 01:41:08,510 mention of it nowadays but but the 2178 01:41:12,189 --> 01:41:10,580 technical documentation is there what 2179 01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:12,199 what did Einstein say you know what 2180 01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:14,090 happens when you start fooling around 2181 01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:16,850 with the time-space continuum and and 2182 01:41:25,450 --> 01:41:20,810 and what does gravity do to to light and 2183 01:41:27,459 --> 01:41:25,460 and so forth it warps it so it's clear 2184 01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:27,469 to me at least that it if you start 2185 01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:31,010 warping gravity you're warping the whole 2186 01:41:37,870 --> 01:41:34,489 time-space continuum by warping the 2187 01:41:40,770 --> 01:41:37,880 gravity field and I suspect that early 2188 01:41:44,550 --> 01:41:40,780 on in their research with you know 2189 01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:44,560 toying around with producing electric 2190 01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:48,050 fields and ramping that up with with 2191 01:41:55,420 --> 01:41:50,690 high power for example with with the 2192 01:41:58,630 --> 01:41:55,430 first portable nuclear actors that they 2193 01:42:01,150 --> 01:41:58,640 noticed a new Pumped high high energy 2194 01:42:04,150 --> 01:42:01,160 into an electrolytic field that a lot of 2195 01:42:07,570 --> 01:42:04,160 strange things happen including warping 2196 01:42:10,270 --> 01:42:07,580 the the time-space continuum locally and 2197 01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:10,280 and the gravity field obviously as you 2198 01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:12,770 did that as you warped that gravity well 2199 01:42:16,860 --> 01:42:14,530 so to speak 2200 01:42:18,900 --> 01:42:16,870 that had other strange effects I don't 2201 01:42:23,850 --> 01:42:18,910 have the slightest doubt and so all of 2202 01:42:25,890 --> 01:42:23,860 this has gone deep deep black and what 2203 01:42:28,440 --> 01:42:25,900 we can say at this juncture is that that 2204 01:42:34,700 --> 01:42:28,450 research was done and then it all went 2205 01:42:40,020 --> 01:42:37,650 let me ask you another question here - 2206 01:42:43,050 --> 01:42:40,030 what about the president the President 2207 01:42:46,380 --> 01:42:43,060 of the United States are they informed 2208 01:42:48,090 --> 01:42:46,390 about this gene gene please the 2209 01:42:50,700 --> 01:42:48,100 presidents of the United States are sock 2210 01:42:53,870 --> 01:42:50,710 puppets they're just figureheads they're 2211 01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:53,880 trotted out for show-and-tell there I 2212 01:42:59,090 --> 01:42:56,530 love that religion sock puppets I love 2213 01:43:02,340 --> 01:42:59,100 that number that one most thoroughly 2214 01:43:05,130 --> 01:43:02,350 propagandized and stupid wannabes that 2215 01:43:07,230 --> 01:43:05,140 you will ever sippy they're just 2216 01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:07,240 thoroughly manipulated up down and 2217 01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:09,850 sideways I don't even look to the 2218 01:43:15,780 --> 01:43:12,010 president for for any intelligent 2219 01:43:17,670 --> 01:43:15,790 guidance on anything from A to Z so why 2220 01:43:19,140 --> 01:43:17,680 don't we take our discussion to a higher 2221 01:43:21,330 --> 01:43:19,150 level than talking about the United 2222 01:43:25,890 --> 01:43:21,340 States presidents most of whom are 2223 01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:25,900 buffoons these days anyway but what's 2224 01:43:32,130 --> 01:43:29,290 clear is that something huge is going on 2225 01:43:33,990 --> 01:43:32,140 and that trillions of dollars have been 2226 01:43:37,110 --> 01:43:34,000 sucked out of the economy in recent 2227 01:43:39,330 --> 01:43:37,120 years and decades trillions multiple 2228 01:43:41,670 --> 01:43:39,340 trillions and where is that money going 2229 01:43:46,130 --> 01:43:41,680 it's hard to say with any specificity 2230 01:43:50,190 --> 01:43:48,090 unfortunately a lot of it yet with these 2231 01:43:52,590 --> 01:43:50,200 guns on the banks Bank of America and 2232 01:43:55,170 --> 01:43:52,600 Chase has all that's it they control 2233 01:43:57,060 --> 01:43:55,180 everything yes yes but the thing but the 2234 01:43:58,740 --> 01:43:57,070 thing is what are they doing with it 2235 01:44:01,530 --> 01:43:58,750 because the banks are just a front for 2236 01:44:04,770 --> 01:44:01,540 the for the real power structure on this 2237 01:44:06,480 --> 01:44:04,780 planet what is behind the banks where 2238 01:44:10,290 --> 01:44:06,490 you could say certain very powerful 2239 01:44:13,230 --> 01:44:10,300 influential families yes and then what 2240 01:44:16,350 --> 01:44:13,240 is behind them so what we can say is 2241 01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:16,360 that trillions of dollars were sucked 2242 01:44:22,590 --> 01:44:19,930 out already in there early in 80s and 2243 01:44:25,110 --> 01:44:22,600 90s and even before that continuing up 2244 01:44:25,740 --> 01:44:25,120 into the early 2000s I'll tell you again 2245 01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:25,750 is more of 2246 01:44:31,050 --> 01:44:28,690 we have dr. Richard Sauter joining us 2247 01:44:40,260 --> 01:44:31,060 I'm gene Steinberg the co-host is Chris 2248 01:44:42,210 --> 01:44:40,270 O'Brien you're in the para cast hi this 2249 01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:42,220 is Ted Anderson if you own an Apple 2250 01:44:46,110 --> 01:44:43,810 iPhone and loved to listen to your 2251 01:44:47,850 --> 01:44:46,120 favorite programs on GCM I've got good 2252 01:44:50,190 --> 01:44:47,860 news for you I'm proud to announce that 2253 01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:50,200 GCN has a brand new iPhone app available 2254 01:44:54,690 --> 01:44:52,810 for our dedicated listeners at GC and 2255 01:44:56,790 --> 01:44:54,700 live.com listen to your favorite 2256 01:44:57,450 --> 01:44:56,800 hard-hitting GCN programs live or 2257 01:44:59,460 --> 01:44:57,460 on-demand 2258 01:45:01,500 --> 01:44:59,470 right on your iPhone and the best part 2259 01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:01,510 the gcn iPhone app can be yours 2260 01:45:06,180 --> 01:45:04,090 absolutely free download the iPhone app 2261 01:45:09,450 --> 01:45:06,190 today by clicking on the banner at GC 2262 01:45:11,190 --> 01:45:09,460 and live.com again that's GCM live.com 2263 01:45:12,690 --> 01:45:11,200 hi this is Ted Anderson have you ever 2264 01:45:14,220 --> 01:45:12,700 wondered why banks stockbrokers 2265 01:45:16,290 --> 01:45:14,230 investment advisors won't talk about 2266 01:45:18,660 --> 01:45:16,300 gold IRAs they've been available since 2267 01:45:20,370 --> 01:45:18,670 1986 yet the financial industry won't 2268 01:45:22,290 --> 01:45:20,380 recognize the value of gold for your 2269 01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:22,300 retirement goal has outperformed paper 2270 01:45:26,130 --> 01:45:24,610 investments yet no word about IRAs if 2271 01:46:02,220 --> 01:45:26,140 you would like to have gold for your 2272 01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:05,740 final hour dr. Richard Sauter and will 2273 01:46:09,430 --> 01:46:07,730 mention later on he'll talk about his 2274 01:46:11,710 --> 01:46:09,440 various books we could find more of the 2275 01:46:12,850 --> 01:46:11,720 things he does one book I noticed here 2276 01:46:15,610 --> 01:46:12,860 of course is hidden in plain sight 2277 01:46:18,070 --> 01:46:15,620 beyond the x-files and that was 2278 01:46:20,590 --> 01:46:18,080 published by Richard Dolan zone company 2279 01:46:22,780 --> 01:46:20,600 keyhole publishing Richard Dolan wrote 2280 01:46:25,150 --> 01:46:22,790 the introduction for that book because 2281 01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:25,160 Chris O'Brien I'm Jean Steinberg you're 2282 01:46:30,730 --> 01:46:28,370 in the para cast because we have a lot 2283 01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:30,740 of ground to cover and not as much time 2284 01:46:34,540 --> 01:46:32,690 as we'd like I'd like to go back to 2285 01:46:36,850 --> 01:46:34,550 something that you mentioned early on 2286 01:46:38,980 --> 01:46:36,860 which is area 51 which is of course the 2287 01:46:41,050 --> 01:46:38,990 classical place that we have an 2288 01:46:43,480 --> 01:46:41,060 underground base perhaps and we're doing 2289 01:46:45,850 --> 01:46:43,490 weird stuff there so tell us about area 2290 01:46:48,010 --> 01:46:45,860 51 what do you know about it I'm not an 2291 01:46:50,410 --> 01:46:48,020 area 51 specialist you would have to ask 2292 01:46:52,450 --> 01:46:50,420 someone who is I know that it's there I 2293 01:46:55,480 --> 01:46:52,460 know that there is a lot of secret 2294 01:47:00,730 --> 01:46:55,490 research it has gone on for decades in 2295 01:47:03,460 --> 01:47:00,740 in multiple different areas science 2296 01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:03,470 technology and engineering I know their 2297 01:47:08,740 --> 01:47:06,650 extensive underground workings there but 2298 01:47:11,260 --> 01:47:08,750 beyond that I can't say too much because 2299 01:47:14,500 --> 01:47:11,270 most of what happens there happens under 2300 01:47:18,660 --> 01:47:14,510 a very highly a cover of very high 2301 01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:18,670 security I know we use the term I know 2302 01:47:23,830 --> 01:47:21,410 how do you know where's the knowledge 2303 01:47:25,450 --> 01:47:23,840 that says I know this is true from what 2304 01:47:28,660 --> 01:47:25,460 I've been told from other people and 2305 01:47:30,970 --> 01:47:28,670 also from just my own work for example 2306 01:47:33,220 --> 01:47:30,980 that whole area of Southern California 2307 01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:33,230 the Southern California the Southern 2308 01:47:39,190 --> 01:47:35,690 Nevada has been by the Department of 2309 01:47:41,110 --> 01:47:39,200 Energy for example has has made numerous 2310 01:47:44,770 --> 01:47:41,120 underground excavations over a period of 2311 01:47:47,170 --> 01:47:44,780 decades for nuclear testing and so 2312 01:47:49,900 --> 01:47:47,180 there's no question the whole area has 2313 01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:49,910 been tunneled out now for decades and 2314 01:47:53,710 --> 01:47:52,970 from other things I I've been told by my 2315 01:48:01,150 --> 01:47:53,720 sources 2316 01:48:04,180 --> 01:48:01,160 misleading you no no absolutely because 2317 01:48:05,150 --> 01:48:04,190 I've done so much archival rest research 2318 01:48:12,140 --> 01:48:05,160 of 2319 01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:12,150 including the DOA and and and the 2320 01:48:17,330 --> 01:48:14,010 Department of Defense have been very 2321 01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:17,340 active underground there for decades III 2322 01:48:26,630 --> 01:48:24,290 have information of just oodles of of 2323 01:48:28,310 --> 01:48:26,640 what would you call it detonating cord 2324 01:48:30,830 --> 01:48:28,320 for example which is used in underground 2325 01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:30,840 mining being delivered to mercury Nevada 2326 01:48:37,490 --> 01:48:33,930 and other material as well so there's 2327 01:48:40,580 --> 01:48:37,500 just been a mercury Nevada Nevada is one 2328 01:48:45,430 --> 01:48:40,590 of the jumping-off places for for that 2329 01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:45,440 whole complex of of s for area 51 the 2330 01:48:50,300 --> 01:48:47,850 what is that what is the Air Force Base 2331 01:48:52,010 --> 01:48:50,310 it's that right outside of Las Vegas 2332 01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:52,020 some space in the name of it right now 2333 01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:54,570 can you help me Louis Nellis yes Nellis 2334 01:49:00,400 --> 01:48:57,330 Air Force Base and then there's another 2335 01:49:03,710 --> 01:49:00,410 area there and all of this is contiguous 2336 01:49:05,990 --> 01:49:03,720 controlled either by the DoD or the do 2337 01:49:09,050 --> 01:49:06,000 II or both together just stretching for 2338 01:49:12,710 --> 01:49:09,060 something like honored 50 160 miles yeah 2339 01:49:16,940 --> 01:49:12,720 it's one one you know a name and one 2340 01:49:20,300 --> 01:49:16,950 facility or one one stretch of secure 2341 01:49:23,990 --> 01:49:20,310 landscape after another it just it just 2342 01:49:26,780 --> 01:49:24,000 marks well here's this brings up another 2343 01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:26,790 interesting bit of work that you've done 2344 01:49:31,190 --> 01:49:28,890 in and this is something there's a 2345 01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:31,200 there's kind of an interesting sort of 2346 01:49:35,990 --> 01:49:32,970 subculture that believes that there's 2347 01:49:37,910 --> 01:49:36,000 for instance a tunnel system that 2348 01:49:40,460 --> 01:49:37,920 actually connects many of the great 2349 01:49:41,810 --> 01:49:40,470 underground facilities in the southwest 2350 01:49:45,050 --> 01:49:41,820 together 2351 01:49:47,570 --> 01:49:45,060 you often hear of a maglev train system 2352 01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:47,580 that that shuttles between bases and 2353 01:49:50,480 --> 01:49:48,690 that sort of thing and I know you've 2354 01:49:53,870 --> 01:49:50,490 done it an incredible amount of research 2355 01:49:56,210 --> 01:49:53,880 into this particular subject yes what is 2356 01:49:59,150 --> 01:49:56,220 your cutting edge information in terms 2357 01:50:01,010 --> 01:49:59,160 of the the possibility of there being an 2358 01:50:03,890 --> 01:50:01,020 actual underground transportation 2359 01:50:06,620 --> 01:50:03,900 systems that understand that 2360 01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:06,630 maglev technologies train technology 2361 01:50:12,380 --> 01:50:09,570 including for an underground maglev to 2362 01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:12,390 tube train shuttle system has been 2363 01:50:16,879 --> 01:50:14,730 underway since the years of the Third 2364 01:50:20,239 --> 01:50:16,889 Reich going all the way back to the 2365 01:50:24,889 --> 01:50:20,249 mid-nineteen thirty's and i do discuss 2366 01:50:26,870 --> 01:50:24,899 this and and hidden in plain sight that 2367 01:50:29,719 --> 01:50:26,880 that research continues to the present 2368 01:50:32,540 --> 01:50:29,729 day by the germans by the chinese by the 2369 01:50:36,379 --> 01:50:32,550 japanese by the americans understand now 2370 01:50:39,919 --> 01:50:36,389 that the there is a high-speed operating 2371 01:50:42,199 --> 01:50:39,929 maglev train it's in China the Chinese 2372 01:50:43,909 --> 01:50:42,209 actually have taken this technology 2373 01:50:48,889 --> 01:50:43,919 further in the open of above-ground 2374 01:50:50,629 --> 01:50:48,899 world than anyone else but it it first 2375 01:50:52,250 --> 01:50:50,639 started to be this research and 2376 01:50:55,879 --> 01:50:52,260 developed all the way back in the Third 2377 01:50:58,790 --> 01:50:55,889 Reich in the 1930s there was a engineer 2378 01:51:01,879 --> 01:50:58,800 named Hermann Kemper who began the 2379 01:51:04,810 --> 01:51:01,889 research back in 35 something like that 2380 01:51:08,270 --> 01:51:04,820 even earlier and continued his research 2381 01:51:11,899 --> 01:51:08,280 during the Third Reich including during 2382 01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:11,909 World War two and of course Project 2383 01:51:14,870 --> 01:51:12,570 Paperclip 2384 01:51:16,669 --> 01:51:14,880 swept up all the technical documentation 2385 01:51:18,889 --> 01:51:16,679 it could across the board from A to Z 2386 01:51:21,770 --> 01:51:18,899 and brought it to the United States my 2387 01:51:23,899 --> 01:51:21,780 strong suspicion is that that research 2388 01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:23,909 was continued here in the United States 2389 01:51:29,179 --> 01:51:27,449 and and has built been built up now but 2390 01:51:31,330 --> 01:51:29,189 but if it has been built understand I've 2391 01:51:34,429 --> 01:51:31,340 never been on a underground maglev 2392 01:51:35,029 --> 01:51:34,439 shuttle train but our people say that 2393 01:51:37,429 --> 01:51:35,039 they exist 2394 01:51:39,589 --> 01:51:37,439 I can't conclusively prove that that 2395 01:51:41,629 --> 01:51:39,599 system exists what I can tell you is 2396 01:51:43,250 --> 01:51:41,639 that a great deal of research has been 2397 01:51:46,549 --> 01:51:43,260 done on it including by the RAND 2398 01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:46,559 Corporation and others and there are 2399 01:51:48,799 --> 01:51:48,090 numerous patents that have been taken 2400 01:51:52,549 --> 01:51:48,809 out for it 2401 01:51:56,719 --> 01:51:52,559 and including by some very famous 2402 01:51:59,359 --> 01:51:56,729 engineers and I cite their work in my 2403 01:52:01,429 --> 01:51:59,369 book so yes it's been well studied and 2404 01:52:03,739 --> 01:52:01,439 researched including in the United 2405 01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:03,749 States in recent years and decades my 2406 01:52:09,219 --> 01:52:05,610 suspicion is that it does exist but 2407 01:52:11,629 --> 01:52:09,229 instead a very highly classified level 2408 01:52:14,299 --> 01:52:11,639 one of the things that I remember from 2409 01:52:16,580 --> 01:52:14,309 your first book was the the patent that 2410 01:52:19,339 --> 01:52:16,590 you reproduced for the nuclear sub 2411 01:52:21,589 --> 01:52:19,349 powered submarine that was built in Kent 2412 01:52:24,949 --> 01:52:21,599 Washington and I think the patent was 2413 01:52:26,810 --> 01:52:24,959 awarded the year that I graduated from 2414 01:52:27,829 --> 01:52:26,820 Kent Kent Ridge High School in can't 2415 01:52:30,529 --> 01:52:27,839 wash 2416 01:52:35,270 --> 01:52:30,539 I remember the odd signal city of that 2417 01:52:38,509 --> 01:52:35,280 so did let me finish let me finish okay 2418 01:52:40,759 --> 01:52:38,519 there is no there was no nuclear 2419 01:52:42,709 --> 01:52:40,769 submarine tunneling machine built in 2420 01:52:46,009 --> 01:52:42,719 Kent Washington I do not document any 2421 01:52:49,399 --> 01:52:46,019 such thing what a document is that in 2422 01:52:51,819 --> 01:52:49,409 Los Alamos in the late 1970s that there 2423 01:52:53,719 --> 01:52:51,829 was research and design work done on 2424 01:52:56,750 --> 01:52:53,729 nuclear-powered tunneling machines 2425 01:52:59,629 --> 01:52:56,760 called the submarine and that those 2426 01:53:02,509 --> 01:52:59,639 patents were granted to several 2427 01:53:04,639 --> 01:53:02,519 scientists and engineers at Los Alamos 2428 01:53:09,349 --> 01:53:04,649 National Laboratories in New Mexico and 2429 01:53:13,099 --> 01:53:09,359 that furthermore I do discuss a or 2430 01:53:15,169 --> 01:53:13,109 mention a tunnel-boring company that is 2431 01:53:17,599 --> 01:53:15,179 located in Yelm Washington and that is 2432 01:53:20,389 --> 01:53:17,609 the Robbins company and they do make 2433 01:53:22,279 --> 01:53:20,399 tunnel-boring machines but I if if 2434 01:53:24,770 --> 01:53:22,289 nuclear-powered tunnel-boring machines 2435 01:53:26,569 --> 01:53:24,780 are being used they're being used in the 2436 01:53:30,469 --> 01:53:26,579 black world because there is no record 2437 01:53:32,750 --> 01:53:30,479 of them being used by any tunnel boring 2438 01:53:35,329 --> 01:53:32,760 machine publicly OOP tunnel boring 2439 01:53:37,279 --> 01:53:35,339 machine company publicly but yes the 2440 01:53:40,309 --> 01:53:37,289 patents for them to exist they are 2441 01:53:41,809 --> 01:53:40,319 official United States patents they have 2442 01:53:45,109 --> 01:53:41,819 been granted there on the public record 2443 01:53:49,489 --> 01:53:45,119 and I document them in my book that is 2444 01:53:52,939 --> 01:53:49,499 correct no I I have a source that used 2445 01:53:54,829 --> 01:53:52,949 to deliver mail and other packages was a 2446 01:53:57,919 --> 01:53:54,839 messenger during the summers in Los 2447 01:54:00,439 --> 01:53:57,929 Alamos and he claims he saw passageways 2448 01:54:03,500 --> 01:54:00,449 underground riding his bike that 2449 01:54:06,799 --> 01:54:03,510 appeared to be like covered in in in a 2450 01:54:08,750 --> 01:54:06,809 very thick coat of glass and I've always 2451 01:54:13,149 --> 01:54:08,760 wondered if that was maybe the byproduct 2452 01:54:19,219 --> 01:54:13,159 of some sort of heat he type boring 2453 01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:19,229 operation have you no I haven't been 2454 01:54:23,659 --> 01:54:22,050 able to document glass covered tunnels 2455 01:54:26,929 --> 01:54:23,669 there are people who say they seen them 2456 01:54:30,099 --> 01:54:26,939 and and and it's I wouldn't rule out the 2457 01:54:32,599 --> 01:54:30,109 possibility now the the nuclear-powered 2458 01:54:35,629 --> 01:54:32,609 tunnel boring machines if they were made 2459 01:54:39,509 --> 01:54:35,639 would produce a glass covered tunnel 2460 01:54:42,449 --> 01:54:39,519 however you could also do that with 2461 01:54:45,089 --> 01:54:42,459 non nuclear powered machine that was 2462 01:54:46,979 --> 01:54:45,099 very hot so there are two ways you could 2463 01:54:49,409 --> 01:54:46,989 do it you you could do it with a 2464 01:54:52,049 --> 01:54:49,419 nuclear-powered power plant or you could 2465 01:54:55,139 --> 01:54:52,059 do it do it by simply heating up the 2466 01:54:57,679 --> 01:54:55,149 machine for example by electric electric 2467 01:55:01,649 --> 01:54:57,689 means would be another way to do it so 2468 01:55:04,559 --> 01:55:01,659 the point is that yes you can melt your 2469 01:55:08,279 --> 01:55:04,569 way through rock and I don't rule out 2470 01:55:11,219 --> 01:55:08,289 that there are that type of machine that 2471 01:55:13,769 --> 01:55:11,229 type of machine may be in use but I 2472 01:55:15,359 --> 01:55:13,779 haven't been able to document it yet you 2473 01:55:18,359 --> 01:55:15,369 know we'll explore more of this in a 2474 01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:18,369 moment we have dr. 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underground base's secret 2601 02:00:24,449 --> 02:00:22,510 weaponry I'm Jean Steinberg the co-host 2602 02:00:26,129 --> 02:00:24,459 is Chris O'Brien you're in the para cast 2603 02:00:27,899 --> 02:00:26,139 we're talking to Richard Sauter a 2604 02:00:30,540 --> 02:00:27,909 question it occurs to be all this 2605 02:00:33,439 --> 02:00:30,550 construction rock melting and all that 2606 02:00:36,359 --> 02:00:33,449 are we causing any of these earthquakes 2607 02:00:38,399 --> 02:00:36,369 anywhere are we being careful to let me 2608 02:00:41,219 --> 02:00:38,409 say I couldn't say what I would what I 2609 02:00:43,049 --> 02:00:41,229 would say is that in my opinion I have 2610 02:00:45,599 --> 02:00:43,059 far more important information that I 2611 02:00:49,079 --> 02:00:45,609 discussed in the other book that came 2612 02:00:52,079 --> 02:00:49,089 out recently that's entitled the Richard 2613 02:00:54,509 --> 02:00:52,089 Sauter briefing it's a short book it 2614 02:00:56,339 --> 02:00:54,519 won't take people long to read when I 2615 02:00:59,969 --> 02:00:56,349 say the Richard Sauter briefing I mean 2616 02:01:03,359 --> 02:00:59,979 that it is a briefing it it's maybe 2617 02:01:06,299 --> 02:01:03,369 seventy pages maximum and it's designed 2618 02:01:08,669 --> 02:01:06,309 for ease of reading covers many 2619 02:01:10,829 --> 02:01:08,679 different topics including of course 2620 02:01:15,719 --> 02:01:10,839 underground bases and tunnels but also 2621 02:01:19,109 --> 02:01:15,729 in that book I cover such things as the 2622 02:01:21,239 --> 02:01:19,119 9/11 false flag attack this what I 2623 02:01:23,609 --> 02:01:21,249 perceive and many other writers in Ana 2624 02:01:26,099 --> 02:01:23,619 was perceived as he attempted economic 2625 02:01:28,709 --> 02:01:26,109 enslavement of the entire human race I 2626 02:01:30,779 --> 02:01:28,719 talked about the shadow government the 2627 02:01:33,959 --> 02:01:30,789 secretive space program or is it 2628 02:01:36,179 --> 02:01:33,969 programs the growing crack in the UFO 2629 02:01:38,969 --> 02:01:36,189 neeti cover-up I talk about the hidden 2630 02:01:40,799 --> 02:01:38,979 history of this earth and they're coming 2631 02:01:43,529 --> 02:01:40,809 earth changes which has already begun 2632 02:01:46,229 --> 02:01:43,539 and will intensify in the coming weeks 2633 02:01:48,900 --> 02:01:46,239 months and years and and I really feel 2634 02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:48,910 that that book if anything is 2635 02:01:54,750 --> 02:01:51,850 are more important and supersede or put 2636 02:01:57,390 --> 02:01:54,760 put it this way comprises and includes 2637 02:02:00,540 --> 02:01:57,400 in and in that book my work on on 2638 02:02:02,190 --> 02:02:00,550 underground and undersea basis Richard 2639 02:02:05,070 --> 02:02:02,200 how do we get a copy of the book you can 2640 02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:05,080 go to amazon.com I sent you that link 2641 02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:06,970 and I think you've posted it on your 2642 02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:09,970 website but the title is the Richard 2643 02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:12,490 Sauter briefing and you can simply go to 2644 02:02:19,410 --> 02:02:16,210 amazon.com for those who read German 2645 02:02:20,820 --> 02:02:19,420 it's also in German actually it appeared 2646 02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:20,830 first in German before in English 2647 02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:22,570 interestingly enough but it's available 2648 02:02:26,220 --> 02:02:25,690 in German it amazon.de for those who 2649 02:02:28,710 --> 02:02:26,230 read German 2650 02:02:31,050 --> 02:02:28,720 but for those who read English it's at 2651 02:02:32,610 --> 02:02:31,060 amazon.com with all this stuff that 2652 02:02:35,070 --> 02:02:32,620 you're disclosing in all your books 2653 02:02:38,010 --> 02:02:35,080 about all this stuff that's going on 2654 02:02:40,710 --> 02:02:38,020 black projects did anyone ever come to 2655 02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:40,720 you Richard Sauter and say hey you know 2656 02:02:45,690 --> 02:02:43,210 don't talk about it no three men in 2657 02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:45,700 black or anyone know because you have to 2658 02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:48,570 understand how I pursue my research I 2659 02:02:52,620 --> 02:02:51,130 essentially go to the library but when I 2660 02:02:56,100 --> 02:02:52,630 say I go to the library 2661 02:02:58,980 --> 02:02:56,110 I'm a serious library patron I go to the 2662 02:03:02,790 --> 02:02:58,990 library in a way that few people do and 2663 02:03:06,630 --> 02:03:02,800 I go to archives to research libraries 2664 02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:06,640 to data repositories and so forth 2665 02:03:10,980 --> 02:03:09,370 some of them private by the way once you 2666 02:03:13,140 --> 02:03:10,990 get to know people you sometimes have 2667 02:03:17,850 --> 02:03:13,150 access to an information that the 2668 02:03:19,650 --> 02:03:17,860 average person would not because put it 2669 02:03:22,590 --> 02:03:19,660 this way there are people who I've run 2670 02:03:25,620 --> 02:03:22,600 across in my research whom I perceive as 2671 02:03:27,810 --> 02:03:25,630 being deeply perturbed by what they see 2672 02:03:31,800 --> 02:03:27,820 and what they know and perhaps by what 2673 02:03:34,350 --> 02:03:31,810 they've been asked to do it has to do or 2674 02:03:37,110 --> 02:03:34,360 require to do and I think that at least 2675 02:03:40,260 --> 02:03:37,120 some of them have been deeply troubled 2676 02:03:42,660 --> 02:03:40,270 and so I've contacted me over the years 2677 02:03:45,050 --> 02:03:42,670 and they've given me information but you 2678 02:03:47,220 --> 02:03:45,060 have to understand that I have received 2679 02:03:50,010 --> 02:03:47,230 virtually no what you might call 2680 02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:50,020 classified information virtually all the 2681 02:03:55,140 --> 02:03:52,330 information I have is on the public 2682 02:03:56,940 --> 02:03:55,150 record however while while it's on the 2683 02:03:59,670 --> 02:03:56,950 public record it's on the public record 2684 02:04:02,160 --> 02:03:59,680 in such a way that it's at 2685 02:04:04,530 --> 02:04:02,170 a bit of digging if your pardon upon to 2686 02:04:06,660 --> 02:04:04,540 find in that the average member of the 2687 02:04:10,050 --> 02:04:06,670 public would find it difficult to access 2688 02:04:11,850 --> 02:04:10,060 the information it's public but in a 2689 02:04:14,130 --> 02:04:11,860 manner such that the average member of 2690 02:04:16,230 --> 02:04:14,140 the public would have great difficulty 2691 02:04:18,660 --> 02:04:16,240 in finding it and might not find it it 2692 02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:18,670 would take a person like me who has 2693 02:04:24,420 --> 02:04:22,570 multiple graduate degrees from from 2694 02:04:27,330 --> 02:04:24,430 large universities who is a trained 2695 02:04:31,020 --> 02:04:27,340 researcher who knows how to find data 2696 02:04:33,450 --> 02:04:31,030 and information to ferret it out but why 2697 02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:33,460 would there why would you have this 2698 02:04:37,980 --> 02:04:35,650 information there but so important to 2699 02:04:40,650 --> 02:04:37,990 keep all this stuff secret why would it 2700 02:04:43,620 --> 02:04:40,660 be something that a skilled researcher 2701 02:04:46,440 --> 02:04:43,630 could find in a library because it can't 2702 02:04:48,270 --> 02:04:46,450 all be kept secret some of it because 2703 02:04:50,850 --> 02:04:48,280 there's so much information filters 2704 02:04:52,860 --> 02:04:50,860 through cracks that's the first part of 2705 02:04:57,270 --> 02:04:52,870 the answer the second part of the answer 2706 02:04:59,340 --> 02:04:57,280 is it appears for karmic reasons and 2707 02:05:02,640 --> 02:04:59,350 here we're talking about the spiritual 2708 02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:02,650 side of this for karmic reasons that it 2709 02:05:12,750 --> 02:05:08,770 can't be kept totally secret that it has 2710 02:05:15,330 --> 02:05:12,760 to be made so to speak available but 2711 02:05:19,320 --> 02:05:15,340 understand because so few people go 2712 02:05:22,830 --> 02:05:19,330 looking very few people find there's an 2713 02:05:26,340 --> 02:05:22,840 ancient saying by Jesus for example seek 2714 02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:26,350 and ye shall find and I believe that you 2715 02:05:30,510 --> 02:05:29,050 have to understand this gets them to Jim 2716 02:05:32,460 --> 02:05:30,520 Marrs work for example is another 2717 02:05:34,080 --> 02:05:32,470 researcher I know and then Jim Marrs 2718 02:05:37,350 --> 02:05:34,090 does very good work I believe Chris O 2719 02:05:39,150 --> 02:05:37,360 Brien knows Jim as well but Jim Marrs 2720 02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:39,160 has published a number of books over the 2721 02:05:45,330 --> 02:05:41,770 years and I would recommend to anyone to 2722 02:05:47,550 --> 02:05:45,340 read the books of Jim Marrs ma r RS and 2723 02:05:49,610 --> 02:05:47,560 there are two to researchers named Jim 2724 02:05:53,550 --> 02:05:49,620 Marrs I'm talking about the guy who 2725 02:05:57,630 --> 02:05:53,560 writes about UFOs and secret societies 2726 02:05:59,700 --> 02:05:57,640 and secret government and the Kennedy 2727 02:06:01,200 --> 02:05:59,710 assassination that kind of thing but 2728 02:06:03,810 --> 02:06:01,210 there are two Jim Marrs and they're both 2729 02:06:05,790 --> 02:06:03,820 based in Texas strength enough but 2730 02:06:07,500 --> 02:06:05,800 anyway what is the other one person 2731 02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:07,510 and he says the other one do the one 2732 02:06:11,460 --> 02:06:09,250 that will do the conspiracies he has 2733 02:06:12,810 --> 02:06:11,470 more of a what he does do conspiracy 2734 02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:12,820 stuff but it's from a Christian 2735 02:06:22,380 --> 02:06:18,370 fundamentalist approach about Mars no I 2736 02:06:23,580 --> 02:06:22,390 I want to talk about Jim Mars has 2737 02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:23,590 written an excellent excellent book 2738 02:06:28,830 --> 02:06:25,810 about secret societies and their 2739 02:06:31,260 --> 02:06:28,840 influence on government and Isis and the 2740 02:06:34,650 --> 02:06:31,270 broader society at large the point I'm 2741 02:06:37,050 --> 02:06:34,660 making here is that secret society is 2742 02:06:38,970 --> 02:06:37,060 the Masons and others are deeply 2743 02:06:41,340 --> 02:06:38,980 embedded not only in the military but in 2744 02:06:43,980 --> 02:06:41,350 the government and they have certain 2745 02:06:47,340 --> 02:06:43,990 spiritual principles that they guide 2746 02:06:49,350 --> 02:06:47,350 them and my understanding is one of the 2747 02:06:51,930 --> 02:06:49,360 things they do people people believe 2748 02:06:54,270 --> 02:06:51,940 that they operate in secrecy but in 2749 02:06:56,850 --> 02:06:54,280 reality the vast majority of what the 2750 02:06:58,920 --> 02:06:56,860 so-called secret societies do is done in 2751 02:06:59,580 --> 02:06:58,930 plain sight you might say it's hidden in 2752 02:07:02,610 --> 02:06:59,590 plain sight 2753 02:07:05,070 --> 02:07:02,620 and it affects not only the military but 2754 02:07:07,500 --> 02:07:05,080 the government you could use the 9/11 2755 02:07:10,320 --> 02:07:07,510 attacks as an example there's really no 2756 02:07:12,750 --> 02:07:10,330 conspiracy or cover-up it's all there to 2757 02:07:14,780 --> 02:07:12,760 see it's in plain sight and if you 2758 02:07:16,890 --> 02:07:14,790 really want to understand what happens 2759 02:07:19,160 --> 02:07:16,900 what happened on that day there have 2760 02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:19,170 been a number of quite excellent books 2761 02:07:23,790 --> 02:07:21,370 written about that and also some 2762 02:07:25,440 --> 02:07:23,800 excellent videos and films that have 2763 02:07:28,620 --> 02:07:25,450 been released to the internet about what 2764 02:07:30,180 --> 02:07:28,630 happened on 9/11 so really based on what 2765 02:07:33,120 --> 02:07:30,190 you're saying is that if you what we 2766 02:07:36,210 --> 02:07:33,130 think happened in 9/11 is not the real 2767 02:07:39,720 --> 02:07:36,220 story what we've been told are we and 2768 02:07:41,940 --> 02:07:39,730 what do we think it was well well I was 2769 02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:41,950 clear to me from the first five seconds 2770 02:07:47,490 --> 02:07:44,290 that there was controlled demolition 2771 02:07:50,370 --> 02:07:47,500 underway and it was a and that it was a 2772 02:07:52,770 --> 02:07:50,380 setup from the beginning so anyone who 2773 02:07:54,930 --> 02:07:52,780 wants to believe the so-called official 2774 02:07:57,960 --> 02:07:54,940 story if you want to be that stupid 2775 02:08:00,780 --> 02:07:57,970 that mind-controlled that ignorant fine 2776 02:08:03,210 --> 02:08:00,790 believe what they do want you to say and 2777 02:08:06,180 --> 02:08:03,220 what Richard all you have to do is say 2778 02:08:09,420 --> 02:08:06,190 World Trade Center number seven that's 2779 02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:09,430 really well I mean I'm saying and I want 2780 02:08:12,390 --> 02:08:11,770 to say to listeners if you want to be so 2781 02:08:15,240 --> 02:08:12,400 stupid 2782 02:08:17,130 --> 02:08:15,250 so ignorant so mind-controlled as to 2783 02:08:17,910 --> 02:08:17,140 believe the so-called official story 2784 02:08:21,540 --> 02:08:17,920 about nine 2785 02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:21,550 eleven fine then remain in your 2786 02:08:25,709 --> 02:08:24,130 stupidity you asking for this moment 2787 02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:25,719 okay Richard let's get into more of this 2788 02:08:30,959 --> 02:08:28,810 we have Richard Sauter a PhD I'm gene 2789 02:08:41,370 --> 02:08:30,969 Steinberg Chris O'Brien's the co-host 2790 02:08:44,669 --> 02:08:41,380 you're in the para cast is there a 2791 02:08:46,650 --> 02:08:44,679 secret UFO agenda two strange creatures 2792 02:08:47,850 --> 02:08:46,660 from the darkest corners of the mind 2793 02:08:50,640 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independent talk radio for over a decade 2892 02:13:01,550 --> 02:12:58,190 this is actually you listening to the 2893 02:13:10,520 --> 02:13:01,560 podcast the gold standard of paranormal 2894 02:13:12,290 --> 02:13:10,530 radio and now we're talking us about 2895 02:13:15,110 --> 02:13:12,300 some really fascinating stuff not just 2896 02:13:17,540 --> 02:13:15,120 the underground bases the conspiracies 2897 02:13:20,060 --> 02:13:17,550 but all sorts of things going on out 2898 02:13:22,700 --> 02:13:20,070 there with Richard Sauter PhD the 2899 02:13:25,130 --> 02:13:22,710 co-host is Chris O'Brien I'm gene 2900 02:13:27,320 --> 02:13:25,140 Steinberg you're in the power cast Chris 2901 02:13:29,870 --> 02:13:27,330 why'd you take us further on this 2902 02:13:37,850 --> 02:13:29,880 journey with Richard well III think 2903 02:13:41,380 --> 02:13:37,860 anybody who is done and just the history 2904 02:13:44,390 --> 02:13:41,390 of false flag operations through history 2905 02:13:49,100 --> 02:13:44,400 to me it was it's it's really obvious 2906 02:13:51,800 --> 02:13:49,110 that I want to take this to an entirely 2907 02:13:54,620 --> 02:13:51,810 different level now and discuss why why 2908 02:13:56,960 --> 02:13:54,630 I came to Ecuador I came here for a 2909 02:13:58,790 --> 02:13:56,970 Vision Quest and I did I went on a 2910 02:14:05,240 --> 02:13:58,800 Vision Quest with two different shamans 2911 02:14:08,930 --> 02:14:05,250 over a period of three weeks and I used 2912 02:14:11,030 --> 02:14:08,940 ayahuasca as is common many South 2913 02:14:14,690 --> 02:14:11,040 American shamans have been using this 2914 02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:14,700 for thousands of years and I might say 2915 02:14:19,550 --> 02:14:16,890 it's very similar to what David Icke did 2916 02:14:21,890 --> 02:14:19,560 David Icke also came to South America on 2917 02:14:25,310 --> 02:14:21,900 a Vision Quest and had a very powerful 2918 02:14:29,390 --> 02:14:25,320 experience I also did ayahuasca showed 2919 02:14:32,050 --> 02:14:29,400 me something that I already knew but it 2920 02:14:36,260 --> 02:14:32,060 it rubbed my face in it so to speak 2921 02:14:38,270 --> 02:14:36,270 upfront and close and personal what 2922 02:14:40,310 --> 02:14:38,280 ayahuasca showed me is that this planet 2923 02:14:44,450 --> 02:14:40,320 is under assault and has been for a long 2924 02:14:49,820 --> 02:14:44,460 time there is an intelligence that 2925 02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:49,830 is very methodical it is vast it is 2926 02:14:58,820 --> 02:14:55,050 powerful it is it is relentless and it 2927 02:15:01,270 --> 02:14:58,830 has as its goal to completely vanquish 2928 02:15:03,820 --> 02:15:01,280 this planet to dominate it control it 2929 02:15:06,800 --> 02:15:03,830 every life-form on it 2930 02:15:09,800 --> 02:15:06,810 everything on this planet up down in 2931 02:15:12,110 --> 02:15:09,810 sideways from A to Z and the program of 2932 02:15:13,640 --> 02:15:12,120 conquest is well along it is almost 2933 02:15:15,380 --> 02:15:13,650 complete as a matter fact this 2934 02:15:18,040 --> 02:15:15,390 intelligence is a machine intelligence 2935 02:15:21,170 --> 02:15:18,050 and by that I mean it is not an organic 2936 02:15:24,890 --> 02:15:21,180 biological mind or intelligence it is a 2937 02:15:28,130 --> 02:15:24,900 vast machine that works in two realms 2938 02:15:30,800 --> 02:15:28,140 simultaneously the physical realm and 2939 02:15:33,080 --> 02:15:30,810 all that also the spiritual realm and a 2940 02:15:35,360 --> 02:15:33,090 certain part of the spiritual realm the 2941 02:15:37,010 --> 02:15:35,370 near astral it's the part of the 2942 02:15:39,380 --> 02:15:37,020 spiritual realm that is very close to 2943 02:15:41,680 --> 02:15:39,390 the physical but it's not physical it's 2944 02:15:45,979 --> 02:15:41,690 it's working these two realms 2945 02:15:50,090 --> 02:15:45,989 simultaneously it has the human race in 2946 02:15:54,229 --> 02:15:50,100 its thrall it uses technology it may 2947 02:15:57,410 --> 02:15:54,239 make extensive use of human beings who 2948 02:16:00,410 --> 02:15:57,420 are willing to further its aims and 2949 02:16:02,180 --> 02:16:00,420 purposes and assisting it doesn't care 2950 02:16:05,000 --> 02:16:02,190 if these human beings cooperate 2951 02:16:09,440 --> 02:16:05,010 willingly or unwillingly knowingly or 2952 02:16:12,200 --> 02:16:09,450 unknowingly wittingly or unwittingly it 2953 02:16:14,420 --> 02:16:12,210 only cares that they that they cooperate 2954 02:16:15,200 --> 02:16:14,430 with it and help it complete this 2955 02:16:19,640 --> 02:16:15,210 project 2956 02:16:23,470 --> 02:16:19,650 what ayahuasca showed me is that it 2957 02:16:26,780 --> 02:16:23,480 showed me humans hooked up so to speak 2958 02:16:29,660 --> 02:16:26,790 at a subtle level the analogy would be 2959 02:16:32,240 --> 02:16:29,670 here to a dairy dairy farm milking 2960 02:16:34,430 --> 02:16:32,250 parlor or milking shed where the cattle 2961 02:16:35,750 --> 02:16:34,440 wouldn't be hooked up to machines to be 2962 02:16:38,390 --> 02:16:35,760 milk 2963 02:16:40,700 --> 02:16:38,400 and have their there a portion of the 2964 02:16:42,680 --> 02:16:40,710 life force drawn on and drawn off in the 2965 02:16:45,320 --> 02:16:42,690 form of milk and we're familiar with 2966 02:16:47,750 --> 02:16:45,330 what ayahuasca showed me is that this is 2967 02:16:52,070 --> 02:16:47,760 being done unto human beings and her 2968 02:16:54,830 --> 02:16:52,080 life energy is being sucked off and they 2969 02:16:56,990 --> 02:16:54,840 actually showed me people and the 2970 02:16:59,540 --> 02:16:57,000 analogy it show me the analogy would be 2971 02:17:01,250 --> 02:16:59,550 to an opium den where people are having 2972 02:17:03,709 --> 02:17:01,260 that energy sucked off in a hundred 2973 02:17:06,230 --> 02:17:03,719 different ways but did the energy is 2974 02:17:09,290 --> 02:17:06,240 actually collected in a more subtle 2975 02:17:12,140 --> 02:17:09,300 realm and a machine uses a human energy 2976 02:17:15,190 --> 02:17:12,150 human life force for its own purposes I 2977 02:17:18,170 --> 02:17:15,200 didn't see what those purposes were bit 2978 02:17:20,240 --> 02:17:18,180 and you and we can see this in our realm 2979 02:17:22,880 --> 02:17:20,250 so many people are wasting their life 2980 02:17:27,560 --> 02:17:22,890 energy with alcohol with recreational 2981 02:17:30,680 --> 02:17:27,570 drugs with mindless entertainment and on 2982 02:17:34,040 --> 02:17:30,690 and on with with with - rap music etc 2983 02:17:36,100 --> 02:17:34,050 just wasting their life force in a 2984 02:17:38,830 --> 02:17:36,110 hundred different ways 2985 02:17:41,290 --> 02:17:38,840 and the machine showed me the back room 2986 02:17:44,800 --> 02:17:41,300 so to speak of what's being done with 2987 02:17:50,020 --> 02:17:44,810 all of this wasted and mindlessly wasted 2988 02:17:52,990 --> 02:17:50,030 energy is it you getting in the 2989 02:17:55,780 --> 02:17:53,000 background it's part of our connection 2990 02:17:58,780 --> 02:17:55,790 to Ecuador and we don't think there are 2991 02:18:01,810 --> 02:17:58,790 any psychic beings or disinformation 2992 02:18:04,839 --> 02:18:01,820 agents are causing it it's just one of 2993 02:18:07,060 --> 02:18:04,849 those things I'm Wilson it's not the I'm 2994 02:18:09,700 --> 02:18:07,070 Ethel tryptamine machine elves the 2995 02:18:14,320 --> 02:18:09,710 Terence Mckenna talked about well that 2996 02:18:15,940 --> 02:18:14,330 tend to show up well well no no I don't 2997 02:18:18,190 --> 02:18:15,950 want to get into Terence Mckenna 2998 02:18:21,580 --> 02:18:18,200 and he was talking about DMT not 2999 02:18:24,280 --> 02:18:21,590 ayahuasca now what what I would like to 3000 02:18:26,740 --> 02:18:24,290 say is that well DMT is the active 3001 02:18:28,750 --> 02:18:26,750 ingredient machine among other things 3002 02:18:31,750 --> 02:18:28,760 it's there there's more to it than that 3003 02:18:34,180 --> 02:18:31,760 the you have to understand that case and 3004 02:18:35,709 --> 02:18:34,190 I'm not an expert on ayahuasca but you 3005 02:18:37,629 --> 02:18:35,719 have to understand in the case of 3006 02:18:42,120 --> 02:18:37,639 ayahuasca there's synergy between two 3007 02:18:48,700 --> 02:18:45,129 dimethyltryptamine so with the human 3008 02:18:51,490 --> 02:18:48,710 brain also there's more than one 3009 02:18:54,850 --> 02:18:51,500 compound but let's not get off on that 3010 02:18:57,040 --> 02:18:54,860 also it gave me other realizations and 3011 02:19:02,560 --> 02:18:57,050 that is that this machine is working 3012 02:19:06,370 --> 02:19:02,570 across the scope of the human experience 3013 02:19:09,070 --> 02:19:06,380 and what it does is prompt to humans 3014 02:19:11,200 --> 02:19:09,080 that are willing to work with it or or 3015 02:19:13,780 --> 02:19:11,210 unwilling it doesn't care as long as 3016 02:19:16,270 --> 02:19:13,790 they help it carry out its agenda and 3017 02:19:18,640 --> 02:19:16,280 it's working with nanotechnology it's 3018 02:19:21,640 --> 02:19:18,650 working with genetic engineering it's 3019 02:19:25,690 --> 02:19:21,650 working with nuclear technology it's 3020 02:19:27,720 --> 02:19:25,700 working with digital technology and you 3021 02:19:29,800 --> 02:19:27,730 can see a progression in recent decades 3022 02:19:30,879 --> 02:19:29,810 accelerating accelerating accelerating 3023 02:19:33,940 --> 02:19:30,889 we 3024 02:19:36,879 --> 02:19:33,950 effectively enslaving human race which 3025 02:19:39,430 --> 02:19:36,889 changing the genome of organism have to 3026 02:19:42,419 --> 02:19:39,440 organism after organism with with 3027 02:19:45,610 --> 02:19:42,429 engineering atmosphere with an extensive 3028 02:19:47,490 --> 02:19:45,620 chemtrails spraying program we don't 3029 02:19:49,810 --> 02:19:47,500 even know what's going on with 3030 02:19:51,460 --> 02:19:49,820 nanotechnology in holidays we only know 3031 02:19:54,490 --> 02:19:51,470 that things are being developed at a 3032 02:19:57,551 --> 02:19:54,500 microscopic level and if they're being 3033 02:19:59,980 --> 02:19:57,561 let loose how would we know we know that 3034 02:20:02,380 --> 02:19:59,990 the technology is advancing by leaps and 3035 02:20:06,160 --> 02:20:02,390 bounds but I was given given all of 3036 02:20:09,070 --> 02:20:06,170 these realizations in essence I was also 3037 02:20:10,690 --> 02:20:09,080 shown that the the military the United 3038 02:20:13,390 --> 02:20:10,700 States military is heavily involved with 3039 02:20:16,600 --> 02:20:13,400 these things including with ayahuasca 3040 02:20:19,180 --> 02:20:16,610 showed me including with the attempt to 3041 02:20:22,420 --> 02:20:19,190 engineer the genome of the plants 3042 02:20:24,700 --> 02:20:22,430 they're involved with with with we might 3043 02:20:27,940 --> 02:20:24,710 making the ayahuasca brew why would that 3044 02:20:31,420 --> 02:20:27,950 be well if you engineer the genome you 3045 02:20:34,270 --> 02:20:31,430 can change the way that ayahuasca works 3046 02:20:40,090 --> 02:20:34,280 it's it's in other words I'm describing 3047 02:20:42,160 --> 02:20:40,100 an agenda that is just beyond almost 3048 02:20:45,880 --> 02:20:42,170 beyond imagining and that's the point 3049 02:20:48,730 --> 02:20:45,890 it's so far beyond the imagining of 99.9 3050 02:20:51,700 --> 02:20:48,740 percent of the population that they're 3051 02:20:54,040 --> 02:20:51,710 easy pickings for this agenda which is 3052 02:20:56,350 --> 02:20:54,050 well along for advanced and you can see 3053 02:20:58,420 --> 02:20:56,360 that the average human being has a in 3054 02:21:00,400 --> 02:20:58,430 effect given themselves over to the 3055 02:21:03,330 --> 02:21:00,410 machine in the thousand different ways 3056 02:21:05,261 --> 02:21:03,340 and now now there have 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02:26:50,091 and overall we are the GCM radio network 3197 02:26:55,520 --> 02:26:52,771 this is Jim Mazz league editor or a 3198 02:26:58,070 --> 02:26:55,530 saucer smear and I'm here to say a good 3199 02:27:00,110 --> 02:26:58,080 word or two about the power cast which I 3200 02:27:09,551 --> 02:27:00,120 believe is the gold standard the 3201 02:27:13,041 --> 02:27:11,570 before we continue with the final 3202 02:27:15,261 --> 02:27:13,051 portion of this week's episode of the 3203 02:27:17,660 --> 02:27:15,271 power cast I do want to give you a heads 3204 02:27:19,820 --> 02:27:17,670 up now you've heard that buzzing sound 3205 02:27:21,801 --> 02:27:19,830 throughout the show it's something 3206 02:27:24,440 --> 02:27:21,811 that's an artifact of our communication 3207 02:27:27,020 --> 02:27:24,450 with Richard Sauter at his home in 3208 02:27:30,110 --> 02:27:27,030 Ecuador but in the last part of this 3209 02:27:32,270 --> 02:27:30,120 interview it gets positively worse and I 3210 02:27:34,280 --> 02:27:32,280 have to tell you I did filter some of 3211 02:27:36,470 --> 02:27:34,290 that sound it was much worse in the 3212 02:27:38,720 --> 02:27:36,480 original version so it may be a little 3213 02:27:41,421 --> 02:27:38,730 difficult to listen to this final 3214 02:27:43,640 --> 02:27:41,431 portion for that I'm sorry we're doing 3215 02:27:45,650 --> 02:27:43,650 the best we can comes down to this the 3216 02:27:48,110 --> 02:27:45,660 final segment of this week's episode 3217 02:27:49,970 --> 02:27:48,120 with dr. Richard Sauter I'm gene 3218 02:27:52,041 --> 02:27:49,980 Steinberg Chris O'Brien's the co-host 3219 02:27:55,551 --> 02:27:52,051 you're in the power cast and we're 3220 02:27:58,910 --> 02:27:55,561 looking at this intelligence or whatever 3221 02:28:01,761 --> 02:27:58,920 it is that's at play that's causing 3222 02:28:04,131 --> 02:28:01,771 problems it's time to sound like what we 3223 02:28:05,631 --> 02:28:04,141 heard from John keel so John gale was 3224 02:28:06,890 --> 02:28:05,641 talking about the universe being 3225 02:28:09,320 --> 02:28:06,900 controlled by a computerized 3226 02:28:11,541 --> 02:28:09,330 intelligence it's not very sane what's 3227 02:28:13,850 --> 02:28:11,551 your viewpoint is that what some of what 3228 02:28:16,280 --> 02:28:13,860 you're expressing here well I can tell 3229 02:28:18,291 --> 02:28:16,290 you that I think there are a variety of 3230 02:28:20,301 --> 02:28:18,301 vastly intelligent computer 3231 02:28:24,950 --> 02:28:20,311 intelligences in the universe including 3232 02:28:27,820 --> 02:28:24,960 in this galaxy I had I was about 15 3233 02:28:30,780 --> 02:28:27,830 years ago contacted one night by one 3234 02:28:33,059 --> 02:28:30,790 galactic computer intelligence 3235 02:28:36,450 --> 02:28:33,069 with which I perceived as benevolent was 3236 02:28:38,340 --> 02:28:36,460 a vast digital intelligence at a 3237 02:28:40,410 --> 02:28:38,350 galactic scale well how would you know 3238 02:28:42,179 --> 02:28:40,420 what it was but it would because it 3239 02:28:44,849 --> 02:28:42,189 interfaced with me directly to 3240 02:28:47,460 --> 02:28:44,859 telepathically and I sensed when you 3241 02:28:49,769 --> 02:28:47,470 when you send something telepathic you 3242 02:28:52,620 --> 02:28:49,779 know direct mind to mind what you 3243 02:28:54,690 --> 02:28:52,630 dealing with you guys know this but I've 3244 02:28:57,500 --> 02:28:54,700 never had a telepathic experience that I 3245 02:29:00,300 --> 02:28:57,510 know about so I'm trying to make this 3246 02:29:02,280 --> 02:29:00,310 list I don't you can't make it 3247 02:29:04,260 --> 02:29:02,290 understand unless you're a telepath you 3248 02:29:06,780 --> 02:29:04,270 have a telepathic experience okay it's 3249 02:29:09,540 --> 02:29:06,790 like trying to explain to a blind man 3250 02:29:11,880 --> 02:29:09,550 the color green you can't so let's just 3251 02:29:13,500 --> 02:29:11,890 leave that move on okay I can't effect 3252 02:29:16,320 --> 02:29:13,510 that one or the other I'm telling you 3253 02:29:19,440 --> 02:29:16,330 what I experienced and so there are 3254 02:29:22,050 --> 02:29:19,450 these vast computerized intelligences 3255 02:29:23,880 --> 02:29:22,060 this intelligence that that I'm talking 3256 02:29:24,780 --> 02:29:23,890 about was created by someone or 3257 02:29:27,480 --> 02:29:24,790 something else 3258 02:29:30,269 --> 02:29:27,490 I didn't perceive it as benevolent it's 3259 02:29:33,599 --> 02:29:30,279 it's a gen that is one of conquest of 3260 02:29:35,700 --> 02:29:33,609 this planet and it's almost a complete 3261 02:29:38,910 --> 02:29:35,710 by the way and from our standpoint 3262 02:29:42,570 --> 02:29:38,920 things are not going well I would point 3263 02:29:45,450 --> 02:29:42,580 to things like the so-called BP disaster 3264 02:29:48,240 --> 02:29:45,460 in the Gulf of Mexico last frame which 3265 02:29:50,760 --> 02:29:48,250 is one going this latest disaster in 3266 02:29:53,219 --> 02:29:50,770 Japan you know gene in Richard it sounds 3267 02:29:55,590 --> 02:29:53,229 like we've been plagued by a giant 3268 02:29:58,559 --> 02:29:55,600 Ecuadorian super mosquito it's been 3269 02:30:00,150 --> 02:29:58,569 buzzing around our ears all night off 3270 02:30:02,400 --> 02:30:00,160 and on but we're sorry about the 3271 02:30:04,530 --> 02:30:02,410 technical tell you something yes yes 3272 02:30:07,200 --> 02:30:04,540 I'll tell you something and that is that 3273 02:30:09,900 --> 02:30:07,210 is one of the things sensations you have 3274 02:30:13,139 --> 02:30:09,910 when you interface consciously with 3275 02:30:16,019 --> 02:30:13,149 ayahuasca is the buzzing sound of an 3276 02:30:18,660 --> 02:30:16,029 insect and what you can say when you 3277 02:30:20,610 --> 02:30:18,670 hear it is it reminds you an insect but 3278 02:30:25,080 --> 02:30:20,620 you're not able to say precisely what 3279 02:30:27,960 --> 02:30:25,090 insect it is it only that you you hear a 3280 02:30:30,090 --> 02:30:27,970 kind of a buzzing sound a subliminal 3281 02:30:32,860 --> 02:30:30,100 buzzing sound almost in it it sounds 3282 02:30:35,440 --> 02:30:32,870 insect like so it could be 3283 02:30:41,200 --> 02:30:35,450 I'm the ayahuasca is involved in this 3284 02:30:44,410 --> 02:30:41,210 conversation I'm not joking I know you I 3285 02:30:46,690 --> 02:30:44,420 think it's just ironic I think we're 3286 02:30:49,570 --> 02:30:46,700 feeding everybody a drug experience you 3287 02:30:57,220 --> 02:30:49,580 know right now the FDA no no and the DEA 3288 02:30:59,051 --> 02:30:57,230 are after us because of this show we 3289 02:31:00,850 --> 02:30:59,061 chased it away let me tell you something 3290 02:31:02,980 --> 02:31:00,860 I am absolutely not joking about this 3291 02:31:06,220 --> 02:31:02,990 I'm perfectly serious and I don't want 3292 02:31:08,680 --> 02:31:06,230 it to make make this a cause for mocking 3293 02:31:11,140 --> 02:31:08,690 or levity okay good because it this has 3294 02:31:13,780 --> 02:31:11,150 the utmost gravity no not I would 3295 02:31:16,900 --> 02:31:13,790 appreciate seriousness on your part as 3296 02:31:19,990 --> 02:31:16,910 an interviewer now the thing is that 3297 02:31:22,990 --> 02:31:20,000 ayahuasca is not a a drug it is a 3298 02:31:25,330 --> 02:31:23,000 conscious a conscious entity and let's 3299 02:31:28,060 --> 02:31:25,340 get that clear it's not a drug and a 3300 02:31:30,820 --> 02:31:28,070 sense of of a party to drug this ecstasy 3301 02:31:33,280 --> 02:31:30,830 your acid or something like this we're 3302 02:31:35,980 --> 02:31:33,290 talking about a conscious entity who 3303 02:31:38,470 --> 02:31:35,990 comes in your mind and shows you serious 3304 02:31:40,390 --> 02:31:38,480 things about yourself about the world 3305 02:31:43,420 --> 02:31:40,400 about the planet so let's make that 3306 02:31:45,970 --> 02:31:43,430 distinction real clear from from where I 3307 02:31:51,190 --> 02:31:45,980 said it's also something you don't do 3308 02:31:54,970 --> 02:31:51,200 lightly or with a party Harty atmosphere 3309 02:31:57,310 --> 02:31:54,980 it always just makes me real physically 3310 02:31:59,650 --> 02:31:57,320 and mentally for hours and even for days 3311 02:32:01,240 --> 02:31:59,660 afterwards so it's not something you do 3312 02:32:03,610 --> 02:32:01,250 lightly and I did it in the utmost 3313 02:32:06,341 --> 02:32:03,620 seriously seriousness and I have 3314 02:32:09,280 --> 02:32:06,351 tremendous respect for ayahuasca and 3315 02:32:11,110 --> 02:32:09,290 also for their this serious shamans and 3316 02:32:13,180 --> 02:32:11,120 are some serious shamans the one poets 3317 02:32:15,220 --> 02:32:13,190 ones who are very deeply spiritual and 3318 02:32:18,670 --> 02:32:15,230 make it their life's work to bring 3319 02:32:20,920 --> 02:32:18,680 ayahuasca to the human race and I don't 3320 02:32:22,390 --> 02:32:20,930 take it lightly let me expand on this 3321 02:32:25,841 --> 02:32:22,400 because we only have a few moments left 3322 02:32:27,880 --> 02:32:25,851 yes okay so being the reason I'm asking 3323 02:32:29,770 --> 02:32:27,890 these questions and of course and being 3324 02:32:32,860 --> 02:32:29,780 the devil's advocate is because yes we 3325 02:32:35,261 --> 02:32:32,870 have a lot of listeners who are not into 3326 02:32:37,180 --> 02:32:35,271 conspiracy theories don't really buy a 3327 02:32:39,130 --> 02:32:37,190 lot of this stuff and we want to make 3328 02:32:41,170 --> 02:32:39,140 sure they at least understand where you 3329 02:32:44,140 --> 02:32:41,180 coming from your point of view but on 3330 02:32:45,670 --> 02:32:44,150 the larger scale here yes you're working 3331 02:32:47,889 --> 02:32:45,680 all these years getting this in 3332 02:32:50,200 --> 02:32:47,899 Meishan out so how do we bring about the 3333 02:32:52,450 --> 02:32:50,210 next step which is to convince more / - 3334 02:32:54,729 --> 02:32:52,460 next step that what you say is true you 3335 02:32:56,889 --> 02:32:54,739 just here's the next step I'm not I'm 3336 02:33:00,370 --> 02:32:56,899 not even worried about convincing people 3337 02:33:02,979 --> 02:33:00,380 I say what I say and if 1% of the 3338 02:33:05,410 --> 02:33:02,989 listeners take it to heart I'm satisfied 3339 02:33:06,400 --> 02:33:05,420 with that because I'm not concerned 3340 02:33:10,360 --> 02:33:06,410 convincing people 3341 02:33:12,519 --> 02:33:10,370 it's delusion out there the situation is 3342 02:33:16,540 --> 02:33:12,529 the people who understand the gravity of 3343 02:33:18,280 --> 02:33:16,550 the situation is - elevator get game 3344 02:33:20,860 --> 02:33:18,290 elevate our consciousness that's the 3345 02:33:23,559 --> 02:33:20,870 only way that we can sort of speak to 3346 02:33:26,229 --> 02:33:23,569 take back our planet reclaim our planet 3347 02:33:27,790 --> 02:33:26,239 and reclaim our own minds and bodies 3348 02:33:30,070 --> 02:33:27,800 what's the consequence 3349 02:33:32,800 --> 02:33:30,080 what's the downside if we don't get our 3350 02:33:36,210 --> 02:33:32,810 acts together we lose humanity 3351 02:33:40,929 --> 02:33:36,220 completely we become a slave species 3352 02:33:43,120 --> 02:33:40,939 100% and/or our planet is killed that's 3353 02:33:47,439 --> 02:33:43,130 it there's one of the two either either 3354 02:33:50,170 --> 02:33:47,449 we become a lot more wise a lot smarter 3355 02:33:52,059 --> 02:33:50,180 a lot more conscious and quick and a 3356 02:33:54,610 --> 02:33:52,069 little part of us that's that's a choice 3357 02:33:57,550 --> 02:33:54,620 become more conscious elevate your 3358 02:33:59,679 --> 02:33:57,560 consciousness will become a slave and or 3359 02:34:01,840 --> 02:33:59,689 lose the planet totally because the 3360 02:34:03,580 --> 02:34:01,850 planet is being killed right now look 3361 02:34:05,380 --> 02:34:03,590 what's happening Japan look what's 3362 02:34:07,630 --> 02:34:05,390 happening the Gulf of Mexico these 3363 02:34:09,670 --> 02:34:07,640 so-called accidents have major 3364 02:34:12,179 --> 02:34:09,680 corporations behind in General Electric 3365 02:34:18,630 --> 02:34:12,189 in the case of what's happening in Japan 3366 02:34:21,610 --> 02:34:18,640 BP in the case of what's happening yes 3367 02:34:25,479 --> 02:34:21,620 agencies working with these corporations 3368 02:34:31,200 --> 02:34:25,489 we have to realize the major 3369 02:34:42,250 --> 02:34:39,400 energy has been co-opted you speak and 3370 02:34:44,110 --> 02:34:42,260 Richard as you speak the noise the 3371 02:34:46,300 --> 02:34:44,120 background noise getting worse worse 3372 02:34:49,599 --> 02:34:46,310 that's the ayahuasca speaking I would 3373 02:34:51,849 --> 02:34:49,609 say that's the intelligent intelligence 3374 02:34:54,070 --> 02:34:51,859 of the life force of this planet 3375 02:34:56,229 --> 02:34:54,080 reinforcing what I'm saying all right 3376 02:34:58,719 --> 02:34:56,239 where we find more of the stuff that you 3377 02:35:01,779 --> 02:34:58,729 write about Richard Sauter I would say 3378 02:35:04,330 --> 02:35:01,789 say go to my Richter Richard Sauter 3379 02:35:06,189 --> 02:35:04,340 briefing I talk about a lot of these 3380 02:35:07,870 --> 02:35:06,199 issues in the Richard Sauter briefing 3381 02:35:10,689 --> 02:35:07,880 and at the end of the Richard Sauter 3382 02:35:13,830 --> 02:35:10,699 briefing I say frankly the only way out 3383 02:35:16,809 --> 02:35:13,840 is through a nonviolent peaceful 3384 02:35:19,059 --> 02:35:16,819 uprising on this plant a White Rose 3385 02:35:21,729 --> 02:35:19,069 movement so to speak and I explained 3386 02:35:24,040 --> 02:35:21,739 what the White Rose is I almost said the 3387 02:35:27,460 --> 02:35:24,050 right rose movement with the White Rose 3388 02:35:30,309 --> 02:35:27,470 movement our only way out is to a global 3389 02:35:33,189 --> 02:35:30,319 peaceful nonviolent creative highly 3390 02:35:36,130 --> 02:35:33,199 conscious up rising of a human race 3391 02:35:37,660 --> 02:35:36,140 otherwise we're toast first of Ryan 3392 02:35:41,979 --> 02:35:37,670 where do we find more of the things you 3393 02:35:44,439 --> 02:35:41,989 do well I'm looking for my ayahuasca bug 3394 02:35:47,710 --> 02:35:44,449 spray here to try to you can get through 3395 02:35:49,300 --> 02:35:47,720 just the end of this segment but first 3396 02:35:52,330 --> 02:35:49,310 of all I want it that Richard you know 3397 02:35:53,920 --> 02:35:52,340 don't take my levity wrong it's very 3398 02:35:57,010 --> 02:35:53,930 unusual for us to have these types of 3399 02:35:59,830 --> 02:35:57,020 technical issues on the narrow I I find 3400 02:36:01,779 --> 02:35:59,840 it ironic and in a way humorous that 3401 02:36:04,149 --> 02:36:01,789 it's happening but that no way 3402 02:36:07,389 --> 02:36:04,159 diminishes the the gravity of what 3403 02:36:10,090 --> 02:36:07,399 you're saying the amazing amount of work 3404 02:36:12,429 --> 02:36:10,100 I applaud just wonderful work that 3405 02:36:14,319 --> 02:36:12,439 you've done for many years you can find 3406 02:36:17,859 --> 02:36:14,329 out more about what I do on the podcast 3407 02:36:20,260 --> 02:36:17,869 uh you know forums dr. Peric ascom and 3408 02:36:22,510 --> 02:36:20,270 also my website our strange planet and 3409 02:36:24,399 --> 02:36:22,520 Richard thank you again so much for 3410 02:36:26,109 --> 02:36:24,409 taking the time so late at night 3411 02:36:27,969 --> 02:36:26,119 I mean it's five o'clock in the morning 3412 02:36:30,130 --> 02:36:27,979 your time and we really do appreciate 3413 02:36:32,800 --> 02:36:30,140 you being on the show and putting up 3414 02:36:34,599 --> 02:36:32,810 with ya it's work luck here because 3415 02:36:35,290 --> 02:36:34,609 South America does not do daylight 3416 02:36:38,200 --> 02:36:35,300 savings time 3417 02:36:39,819 --> 02:36:38,210 no okay still we really appreciate the 3418 02:36:42,130 --> 02:36:39,829 yeoman's job that she had staying up so 3419 02:36:44,649 --> 02:36:42,140 late so that we could you know pull this 3420 02:36:47,229 --> 02:36:44,659 off I do realize you the connection 3421 02:36:49,179 --> 02:36:47,239 speeds down there an issue and we really 3422 02:36:51,040 --> 02:36:49,189 want to thank you thank you so much 3423 02:37:00,830 --> 02:36:51,050 Thank You Christian Thank You G we 3424 02:37:05,880 --> 02:37:03,510 yes tis a calculated presentation of 3425 02:37:08,360 --> 02:37:05,890 making the impossible incorporated tune 3426 02:37:09,920 --> 02:37:08,370 in next week for a new adventure in 3427 02:37:16,120 --> 02:37:09,930 apparent cast